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      And Campylobacter, Cryptosporidium, E. coli, Listeria, Brucella, Salmonella… It’s the Macy’s parade equivalent of preventable diseases by UHT and y’all been invited!

      On the other hand, unrefrigerated raw milk is a fantastic way of meeting who’s who of the bacterial world.

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    I think there is confusion between raw milk, pasteurized milk and UHT milk. Only UHT milk doesn’t need to be refrigerated but it tastes horrible.

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      Only UHT milk doesn’t need to be refrigerated…

      While it’s still sealed. Once opened, it needs to be refrigerated.

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        Another weird UHT enjoyer here. If it weren’t so expensive where I’m at then I’d be having it more often

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        If I want that cooked flavor I open a can of evaporated (not condensed which has a lot of added sugar) milk. It’s yummy in coffee and any cooking/baking use.

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      Depends on how you look at it. Raw milk spoils at the same pace as [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk. Only for raw milk the counter starts ticking once the milk leaves the cow, whereas [Edit: ultra-]pasteurized milk remains sterile until you open the package.

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        Pasteurised doesn’t equal sterilised. Not sure ofcourse where you live since apparently that matters for this term since some places used pasteurised for what is double pasteurization and thermized for single pasteurization.

        I know the pasteurised milk I buy will spoil in a matter of days, even if unopened. The only milk that will stay good unopened for months us UHT.

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          Thanks for the heads-up. I just checked the German Wikipedia article. Apparently there are several ‘levels’ of pasteurization ranging from 70°C through 150°C. Since I’ve only encountered the kill-all-that-has-ever-lived kind (UHT), I assumed that’s what everyone does.

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      in a way, no, because raw milk is already unsafe to drink by the time it’s packaged

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        +1 for this: I have very personal experience with an E.Coli outbreak in a small town in southern Utah in 2017. Although the infections did not come from raw milk directly, the infections were traced to the area where the milk was packaged - and albeit anecdotally, there were several related deaths over the years that I was aware of, that were never reported due to the…uh…unique religious background of the place.

        so yeah, I mean…don’t let your children play in manure but also…don’t drink milk that you sanitize less than you sanitize your hands.

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    So it doesn’t turn into yogurt?

    My fridge isn’t full of raw milk or anything, but I think this goose is a better fit for the oven than guard duty.

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      Not sure if you’re joking but to make safe to eat yogurt, you’ll need to first kill the bad ones by heat, then cool it and once it is barren, you should invite the cool guys in like Lactobacillus bulgaricus, Streptococcus thermophilus, Lactobacillus acidophilus or Bifidobacterium lactis, they’ll need to be kept cosy and warm, and that will give you yogurt.

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      It’s a bit like making alcohol—it’s made through fermentation, but you want it to be very controlled.

      Normally you’d want to sterilize the starting mix first to kill any undesired molds and bacteria, add the fermenting agent that you want (lactic acid producing bacteria in this case) and age it in a sealed container until ready.

      If it starts with any contaminants or if any are introduced during fermentation, it’d spoil the batch and make you very sick if ingested.

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    Not trying to defend drinking raw milk but things do taste different at different temperatures.