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Interestingly, unlike cases where publication like this was in the public interest, as with Reality Winner, Elon Musk has yet to be arrested.
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This is how you know the current administration is wholly corrupt: Even when Elon Musk does blatantly illegal things, the DoJ won’t prosecute him. Trump doesn’t care that this is illegal.
It is so stupid that the prosecution of federal crimes can be politically co-opted like this.
Prosecution for leaking of classified information is complicated.
Because… the inherent act of doing so confirms that something was classified information. Instead they are either talked to behind the scenes or they get black helicoptered.
There is also the argument that the POTUS is the be all end all of what is and is not classified and since musk is basically the POTUS. Optimally there is paperwork associated with this but it gets into one of those wonderful “gentleman’s agreement” grey zones.
That is why you’ll never see someone get charges filed against them for admitting that nixon was actually killed by aliens from Rygel 7 and replaced with an android. Instead they will just
This is a fantasy. People get charged for leaking classified information all the time. It’s just a crime, not a spy thriller.
People get charged for the act of leaking classified information. Hell, our president (ugh) did.
But the key is that what they actually leaked is never discussed outside of closed door sessions. And it is almost always as part of a lesser, easier to prove, treason or espionage case.
But actually charging someone because they talked about the space aliens? THAT becomes a huge problem. And that is what we are looking at here.
We are very much not taking about space aliens and “people get charged but the court case doesn’t release classified information” is very different from them not getting charged or getting disappeared.
They will just what
THEY WILL JUST WHAT?
Blink twice if you’re ok!
Bro got abducted by government aliens
Can you hear a helicopter ?
the inherent act of doing so confirms that something was classified information.
Does it? You can investigate to verify if there was a “leak” - aka some communication happened, and if it did, whether it was classified or just a dick pic
We should allow any 1 of the 50 states prosecute the federal gov. Its the only way to balance stuff out if the President is the person making all the appointments
Remember people that are completely full of shit are most often… Completely full of shit. Demand evidence for every claim and don’t accept false premises.
Been in data for ten years and data cleaning/validating is usually one of the first steps on any real analysis if you know what you’re doing.
So I’m not surprised that the Dunning-Krugers skipped it.
Lock him up! Lock him up!
“But her emails!”
Buttery Males!
HODOR!
There is no locking him up. Trump would just pardon him. The only solution to this is of a more permanent kind administered by one of the alphabet agencies whose agents he is going to get killed.
There is another solution. When they call in the military, and they will, those people swore an oath to the constitution and are required to refuse an illegal order.
Imagine if Kamala had gotten elected, chose her own personal gremlin, and then unleashed it to do this crap.
Conservatives would be livid!
“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.”
BINGO.
They’d have likely embarked on a violent rebellion. I can’t say that would be wrong.
There probably are a lot of livid conservatives but we’re not going to hear about it. They rig the elections and they rig the media coverage.
Hours after this story published, a White House spokesperson said in a statement that DOGE did not share classified information ― even as NRO’s classified information was still accessible on DOGE’s website.
“DOGE did not share classified information, any assertion to the contrary is a lie,” said the spokesperson. “Yesterday the accusation was DOGE was not transparent and today the accusation is DOGE is too transparent. Stop the fearmongering, DOGE’s mission remains to cut waste, fraud, and abuse and are doing so with the proper security clearances and following the law.”
Lmao peak professionalism guys.
If you look through the DOGE twitter page he’s screenshooting canceled contracts and it’ll have the name and email of the persons that approved such projects. Totally illegal
“…said one Defense Intelligence Agency employee, who requested anonymity to avoid retaliation from senior leaders.”
Because of course they do, because conservatives just a bunch of vindictive school children who would sell their own mothers to slavery just because they said they couldn’t have ice cream for breakfast.
Sure hope the people get to this point some day soon once they stop laughing at the danger they put others in:
Only the ones who saw it coming a decade ago are the ones who feel this way, like a slow moving nightmare come true while you scream away at all your friends and family only to be called a lunatic.
The ones who are unable to reflect / reason / see clearly / are stuck in propaganda are hard to move from their position simply because of the nature of how they got there in the first place.
Musk’s latest circus act—pumping Doge with one hand while juggling national security clearances with the other—perfectly encapsulates our modern dystopia. The man treats classified protocols like Twitter reply guys, reducing state secrets to meme stock collateral. But let’s not pretend this is about one unhinged billionaire—this is the natural endpoint of a system that rewards algorithmic dopamine hits over actual governance.
The real joke? Regulators scrambling to apply 20th-century securities laws to 21st-century shitposting. We’ve built a financial infrastructure where “to the moon” has more market sway than quarterly earnings reports. Meanwhile, the plebs keep lining up for their daily breadcrumbs of crypto-hopium, blissfully unaware they’re just NPCs in Musk’s open-world RPG.
So I have a stupid and ignorant question to ask:
I’ve seen arguments online stating that We The People cannot band together to sue Elon for accessing our personal information because he has been given “permission” by the president so to speak.
But
Can we sue him for being an illegal immigrant who is accessing our personal information?
Just hypothetical mind you.
That is a felony.
Crimes for me but not for thee
Is there a good podcast that’s kinda like the keeptrack sub that walks you through the events of the day before, what it means, what the implications are, if this has happened before somewhere else, what the outcome was, what our options going forward, and on a scale of 1 to fascist, how fucking close are we?
I’m not sure if there’s one in particular, but I’ve found the following to be good:
The Bulwark
Amicus
David Pakman
Ezra Klein
On the written word front:
The Atlantic
Heather Cox Richardson
Paul Krugman
Tim Snyder
Talking Feds
Thank you!
you’re welcome!
Also, https://www.lawfaremedia.org/ is very good.
On Lemmy:
https://lemmy.world/c/keeptrack
On Reddit:
https://old.reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/
From that subreddit, there’s this substack, https://keeptrack.substack.com/p/project-2025-tracker-is-now-live which maintains this site: https://www.project2025.observer/
Here’s another good site: https://www.democracy2025.org/response-center
Actually, here’s a big collection of links that I think are useful for these times: 2025realitycheck.com/
https://scholars.org/contribution/twenty-lessons-fighting-tyranny-twentieth
Indivisible: A Practical Guide to Democracy on the Brink
Specific Suggestions: Simple Sabotage for the 21st Century
How you can protect democracy - by Quinn Raymond
Twenty Lessons On Tyranny - by Timothy Snyder
Democracy 2025 Response Center
How you can protect democracy - by Quinn Raymond
Simple Sabotage Field Manual by United States. Office of Strategic Services | Project Gutenberg
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