Meta has open sourced every single one of their llms. They essentially gave birth to the whole open llm scene.
If they start losing all these lawsuits, the whole scene dies and all those nifty models and their fine-tunes get removed from huggingface, to be repackaged and sold to us with a subscription fee. All the other domestic open source players will close down.
The copyright crew aren’t the good guys here, even if it’s spearheaded by Sarah Silverman and Meta has traditionally played the part of the villain.
Meta stole from everyone, including those that struggle to make ends meet, so it doesn’t matter that they gave you back some of it. Any moral qualms should evaporate when you consider that they did it to create shareholder value and the rest is philanthropy (aka pretend tax). As a socialist I believe that man is owed for his work and you can’t take from him even though technology makes it so easy.
Calling property labor, doesn’t make you a socialist.
Don’t give me that slop. No one except the biggest names are getting a dime out it once OpenAI buys up all the data and kills off their competition. It’s also highly transformative, which used to be perfectly legal.
Copyright laws have been turned into a joke, only protecting big money and their interests.
What is Anna’s Archive?
It’s a popular search engine that works with shadow libraries like Sci-Hub or Library Genesis. Shadow libraries are hosts to copies of works of literature and science. Their legal status is murky at best but it’s incredibly impractical to persecute those accessing them.
So it’s like thepiratebay or 1337x.to but for books?
Also I think you mean prosecuting, not persecuting.
Also I think you mean prosecuting, not persecuting.
Nowadays, I’m not so sure anymore.
Those are torrents, Annas Archive is typically used for direct downloads.
Thanks. It’s confusing because everyone is talking about torrents. It’s in the title even, but I didn’t read the article.
Well i think you can also torrent off of there too. There are massive backup files on their home page that they are basically begging people to download and seed… So maybe it’s that?
Anna’s Archive: Mirror our database, help us preserve Humanity’s knowledge
Facebook: I’ll just torrent what I need, see yaa
These big tech monopolies are a curse to humanity…
Do it, Judge. Protect the wealthy and say it’s not piracy. Do it.
They’ll be fined 100k
And they’ll ham up how punished and sorry they are, and how thankful they are for the judge handing down “fair and impartial” justice.
It’s not piracy. For corporations. For you and me believe it or not, straight to jail!
Just make an llc, now its legal again.
I’d almost like to think an LLC would be enough, but I suspect that only works if you also have a billion in VC funding and political connections.
Oh for sure, since the law is basically toilet paper for billionaires at this point.
Please! Think of the shareholders, we must protect them!
Damn leeches
But did they keep a good ratio though?
1000% guarantee those mf’s had their upload choked to 20kbps
Nah they used a leeching client. No upload at all.
Gotta have some upload just for the protocol traffic tho.
I would assume that the requests sent from the torrent client to download data are not factored into the Upload amount for the torrent. When they mean no upload, it would be that none of the data in the files they downloaded were shared with anyone else, making them a piece of shit leecher.
Asking the real questions.
“Meta downloaded millions of pirated books from LibGen through the bit torrent protocol using a platform called LibTorrent. Internally, Meta acknowledged that using this protocol was legally problematic,” the third amended complaint noted.
Just want to make clear that Libtorrent is just the torrent application they were using, while the Libgen torrents are easily accessible on the libgen site, not through a separate “platform” called Libtorrent.
I wish people like us could help with these complaints, because then they might actually get the details more accurate to reality.
https://libgen.is/repository_torrent/
The amended complaint makes it sound like Libtorrent is a private tracker website when its just the application they were using on the publicly available torrents.
Totes yeet, yo.
Given the extent it should be considered criminal so $250k per offense and the higher ups who authorized the torrenting should get conspiracy charges at a minimum.
But this is America so they’ll probably pay a small amount, for Meta, and a light slap on the wrist with a finger wagging.
you are being optimistic, it’s likely going to be considered “fair use” and then be business as usual. Meta themselves have claimed that they aren’t filing to dismiss because they believe they are on the legal side, due to the fact they aren’t distributing the pirated content, only using it for training which is currently a massive grey area that hasen’t been ruled as non-fair use
$250k per offence is literally nothing to meta.
$250k * [every book in existence] is literally nothing?
Remember, “offense” doesn’t mean “per torrent,” it means “per copyrighted work infringed.”
Each time someone uses their LLM it should be considered a violation.
People are using these things millions of times a day in aggregate. That adds up fast. $250k multiplied by millions suddenly isn’t so cheap.
