He’s just going to get people killed. But that’s ok he doesn’t give a shit anyways, so it’s moot. What are a few thousand dead peasants when we could make big stock number go up?

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    I feel like I’m a crazy person, but I’m starting to believe the conspiracy of tech billionaires trying to dismantle the government to create network states. I’m almost certain they will gut the SEC eventually as well, so they can deregulate cryptocurrency. This was a summary I’ve recently read: Day One of Venture Capital Takeover.

    Everyone should google Network States and the cities these VC billionaires are trying to create. Stuff like Próspera, Pronomos Capital, Praxis Nation, Bitcoin City in El Salvador, Afropolitan in Africa etc. etc. The same website has long page on it: The Status of the Network State. They are essentially creating sovereign states or cities that aren’t beholden to any local government laws and use their own deregulated cryptocurrencies, so that they can control all the rules and power within.

    I have no idea how trustworthy the site I linked is, but I can’t see what they would gain from lying about it

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        That’s hopeful to hear, but just reading the article, two things stand out:

        The reform eliminated the word “currency” when referring to bitcoin, but says it is “legal tender.” Despite the lack of clarity, it lifts, as required by the IMF, the obligation to accept it in transactions or debt payments, a key condition for it to be “legal tender,” according to economic analysts. With the change, “if someone owes you money and wants to pay you in bitcoin, you can refuse to be paid in bitcoin, but you cannot refuse if it’s legal tender,” economist Carlos Acevedo explained.

        The government, she assured, will continue buying bitcoin and having reserves in this cryptocurrency. According to the National Bitcoin Office, El Salvador has 6,050 bitcoins worth $634.8 million. “President Bukele continues buying bitcoin, we have a Bitcoin Office, we have the Bitcoin Law, bitcoin can be used in El Salvador. It hasn’t been an easy road,” Mayorga summarized.

        They are just removing it as “legal tender” to meet the conditions for an IMF loan and will continue investing in bitcoin.

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      I’ve been around the internet for a long time.

      I’ve seen the horrors rotten.com offered.

      I’ve watched American prisoners being beheaded.

      I’ve seen American soldiers being raped.

      I’ve watched the hanging of Saddam.

      I’ve seen people jumping out of the trade towers.

      I’ve seen…I’ve seen some truly horrific – terrible shit in my lifetime. shit that’s made my stomach churn and realize what kind of evil exists in this world.

      but this…today…is just too much for me.

      I think I’m going to go lay down for a few days…

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        Both Peter Thiel and Musk are incredibly dangerous to America’s democracy. Here’s another choice quote from the site:

        Peter Thiel has held “I no longer believe that freedom and democracy are compatible” for many years. In 2022, he ripped up $100 dollar bills on stage at the Bitcoin Conference, stating “Bitcoin is the most honest market in the world. It’s the most efficient market… It is telling us that the central banks are bankrupt, that we are at the end of the fiat money regime.” In a 2024 podcast, he stated “Liberalism is exhausted, one suspects that democracy, whatever that means, is exhausted, and that we have to ask some questions very far outside the Overton window." PayPal was originally founded to replace the US dollar. Peter Thiel stated in his book, Zero to One: “PayPal had a suitably grand mission — the kind that post-bubble skeptics would later describe as grandiose. We wanted to create a new internet currency to replace the US dollar.” PayPal’s “co-founder” was Elon Musk, showing both parties aimed to replace the US dollar from a very early date in their careers. Marc Andreessen has also been instrumental in financing the rise of Bitcoin.

        Let’s not forget about JD Vance, the current Vice President, who after a talk Thiel did at Yale Law School, described it as “the most significant moment of my time” at the institution. He later went on to be mentored by Thiel and joined one of his VC companies. He also received about $15 million dollars in donation from Thiel for his Senate campaign in 2022 which was ultimately successful. This was the largest amount donated to a single Senate candidate ever. Forbes published a good timeline of Thiel and Vance’s relationship last year.

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    In my experience, if you have a boss that bitches about OSHA and how they’re totally unnecessary, you’ve got a shitty boss. I’m talking the kind that would get you killed to save a nickel and then go on about how they’re the real victims of you going and getting yourself killed like that.

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    Decades upon decades of progress are going to be gone by the end of this.

    We’ll spend the rest of our lives living in a system slowly being rebuilt, if we even get that lucky.

    There goes our futures. And we voted for it.

    Truly a shit nation full of shit people.

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      The wounds are too deep for rebuilding, imo. Even if we do get the chance, there’s just not enough Band-Aids, political will, and time in four years for the democrats to repair it. We’re facing the complete implosion of our federal government and its legitimacy along with it.

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        The worst part is that there’s not enough of an organized opposition to stop it, or even really slow it down. Neither major political party acts in favor of the people; major news outlets and social networking tools are owned by billionaires; a sizeable chunk of the country is perfectly OK with getting ratfucked so long as José next door gets it worse. We aren’t facing the implosion of the USA into a TechnoFascist Hellscape, we’re LIVING IT.

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      B-bu-but grandstanding uncommitted Jill Steiners told me not to worry and they’re all the same though!!?

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      You are …and only a handful of people are going to be better off for it. It’s fucking wank, and it’s not just USians that are going to feel the hit, cause many other countries will use you as a blueprint.

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      Most of them are just caught in the gears of history. It’s not as if voting was ever mandatory or generally made available to the working class.

      But yes, a nation asleep at the wheel for the most part. It’s such a pity.

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    All this bullshit from someone that never even took a US civics class. And likely has little to no idea of US history.

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      But that was the fault of the DEI - the secret shadow government responsible for all things you don’t like.

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      He’s starting with planes, but next he’ll be crashing rockets in your backyard and charge you for the cleanup.

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    He thinks we’re probably living in a simulation so logically killing people wouldn’t be morally wrong to him.

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    So I visited Bangladesh one time, and learned they have insanely high rates of cancer there. Why? Well it turns out that (among other reasons) the farmers had been injecting formaldehyde into their vegetables because it made them last longer on the shelves, and therefore sold better.

    This is what you get with no regulations. A sick and dying population.

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      I spent a decade living around Africa, and this kind of thinking is common. DDT was what everyone put on the tomatoes because pests mean loss of food. Who wants that?

      Lack of relations is only about living in short-term survival thinking 24/7. Long term effects mean nothing.

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        DDT isn’t going to cause health problems for the people in Africa. It will cause problems for some birds near the top of the food chain however.

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          It’s just the easiest example to use. I have maybe dozens more examples that require more storytelling and setup.

          Ever had someone try to sell you a car with visible drywall screws holding the bumper on, like you were the dick for pointing them out?

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      They will just call it Freedom Juice™ and write on the packaging that it makes the food taste more better.

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    You have to remember that musk literally, unironically, thinks we’re npcs. He actually genuinely does not think that the masses of poor people are actually people.

    So no, he won’t fucking care.

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    From my point of view from the other side of the Atlantic, you guys in the US don’t have enough regulation as it is. There’s only one class of people that benefit from removal of the regulations you do have, and that’s the top 1%. It’s just going to allow them to do all of the following to make more money, at everyone else’s expense.

    1: Treat their employees worse than they already do, AND put them into dangerous situations legally. 2: Cut corners to save money at the expense of safety. Think airlines, airliner manufacturers, car makers, construction. The list here could be endless. 3: Well, finance/banking regulations. That will be a field day for the finance sector I’m sure.

    I mean the list is potentially endless. But the three points above will keep you busy for long enough I reckon.

    No, I don’t really feel safe even this far away. We’re not immune to all of this anywhere in the world.

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      Your list has most of the highlights, but you’re missing 2 really important one: 1. food safety. I guess Americans don’t care what is being sprayed on their vegetables or what diseases their meat might have. And 2. environmental. Burning rivers, even more wildfires, smog in all your cities, toxic waste in your lakes, etc. Don’t think they won’t start polluting like crazy if they can.

      All regulations means ALL regulations; even the ones most people would think are so common sense they don’t expect them to go away. They will. If it makes more money, they’ll get rid of any and all regulations.

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        Number 3 is interesting for me… The finance sector is pretty aware of the need to control stupid risk taking, and the don’t want another GFC, so I guess they’d (broadly) want to keep some of the regulation around that. What else is there? General bad acting and things like excessive fees? That also seems to be a risk driver, in the long term, as it leads to e.g. increased loan defaults… Where do you think the key problems would be?

        Edit: whoops, this was supposed to be in reply to @r00ty@kbin.life

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          What makes you think big finance likes to keep regulation? Someone’s loss is another one’s profit. Some people become very very rich from financial crises.

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            Because market crashes are not good for anyone in the sector… Hence I think the regulations brought in via the FSB in response to the GFC were broadly accepted (though probably with varying degrees of willingness).

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        Yeah I stopped at three when I realised I could be there all day when it comes to regulations that private companies need to adhere to. But I would agree those should have been on my abridged list too.

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      “Cowards die many times before their deaths; The valiant never taste of death but once. Of all the wonders that I yet have heard. It seems to me most strange that men should fear; Seeing that death, a necessary end, Will come when it will come.”

      Julius Caesar, ACT II Scene II by William Shakespeare