That seems pretty high for people who just ran a losing genocidal candidate and then blamed everybody else.
gestures broadly at the Democrats behavior the last 10+ years gee it’s a real mystery guys.
Yeah, it’s a “poll” problem 🙄🙄🙄 not a “we antagonize and betray our base and voters constantly” problem
Definitely not because they are spineless either
Be fair. They stood absolutely steadfast when pressure was applied to abandon Netanyahu’s genocide.
“If these people saw the macroeconomic picture they wouldn’t disapprove of us. They’re just ignorant of statistics.”
Couldn’t beat the bad guys on easy mode with every advantage.
I was just thinking about Jill Stein this morning and how insanely unnecessary she was. The dnc switching candidates did more damage than any 3rd party candidate could ever intend to do. Mind blowing how little they did even if only it had been simply to keep some semblance of fake pride. Something. Anything.
The democrats lost by being a shit party. It had nothing to do with Jill stein. They like to pretend to be for the working class but when it comes to actually passing things, rarely is that the case. The candidate they put failed to distinguish herself as any different from joe biden and failed to take a stance on genocide.
No one said they lost because of Jill Stein. That wasn’t said anywhere. The gist of my statement was that the DNC did a fantastic job fucking this campaign up. I don’t know where people think my statement said Joe Biden would have won. I don’t know where you thought i said Jill Stein lost it for them. I can’t comprehend how bad your reading comprehension has to be to take that away.
…why mention Jill Stein then…
Are you saying genocide joe would’ve won?!?! New level of lib delusions.
Do you think the average American voter gives two shits about selling weapons to another country to kill women and children?
As an aside, you write like someone whose brain has been melted away by too much internet. Just buzz labels and pop phrases over and over again. Unplug and read some actual novels, something that takes longer than a minute to read, im begging you
If that’s your takeaway then i agree about delusions.
Democrats lose when there’s not a fair primary. It’s happens a bunch of times.
What about where they didn’t have primaries? The DNC said here’s your candidate and you’ll like it. Apparently people didn’t
The last election is just the latest example. The last time they had an actual primary and not an anointing ceremony we got Obama.
A billion dollars thrown at their garbage political consultants and they lose to Angry Orange’s dumber brother.
Again.
Honestly, if folks haven’t listened to that interview of AOC by Jon Stewart, she really lays out the problem with the DNC pretty clearly (and really, they problem with the two party winner take all house, too). I recommend giving it a listen.
Huh - apparently just being not-the-Republicans isn’t enough.
The important question is, will the DNC learn anything from this?
I’m guessing no.
It’d be bad enough if that just meant that the US is for all intents a one-party system, but at this particular point in history, the future of the country and the lives of millions depend on effective opposition to those who are building a plutocratic/fascist oligarchy, and the exact institution that should be the vanguard for opposition is just a bunch of greedy pigs and cowards.
They didn’t even learn anything from Dubya. Their answer to Bush was Clinton, not Obama. Obama was an unexpected primary winner thanks to people that were insanely enthusiastic about his platform, and healthcare reform coming into the public spotlight. The turnout he got was like nothing they’d been able to do before.
And what they took away from that was “wow, Obama was just a once in a generation charismatic speaker.” 🤦♂️ I look forward to the next round of being told how good the economy is!
What the DNC actually took away from Obama is that they could never run a fair primary again, because it threatened their ability to push corporate stooges.
Of course they won’t learn jack fucking shit. If we have another election it will be “super fascist Nazi KKK” Republican vs “corpo fascist mildly less racist” Democrat. American politicians have completely abandoned anything remotely resembling liberal or leftist ideaology in favor sucking the fat dripy corporate cock for money. It is utterly disgusting.
I’d like to be hopeful that with the list of DNC committee members leaked that maybe the ones who want to drag the party left will come together and bring change. But honestly I’m just hoping to be able to afford chicken breasts and eggs by the next election.
I’ve never understood why “Not Republicans” isn’t enough, frankly.
Criticism of center-right Third Way corporatists aside, one would have to be half braindead to believe a chasm still doesn’t separate the two. I mean, if you could go back and take milquetoast over Hitler, wouldn’t you?
I mean it was basically Stagnation vs. Fascism if viewing Dems in the worst light this cycle (and that’s being harsh). Gee… Tough choice.
Instead let’s take a step back and recognize the superseding problem: if you don’t fix the skewed media landscape, then it really doesn’t matter who you run or what policy you run because reality is being distorted by the right wing propaganda machine.
Harris was better than Trump in literally every single way. Trump could do no wrong in the electorate’s eyes while Harris had to be perfect. Can’t win with that uphill battle / double-standard.
There’s a reason the education gap widened this election. People who had critical-thinking skills to sort truth from bullshit understood this.
I’ve never understood why “Not Republicans” isn’t enough, frankly.
Well there are two reasons:
1-It’ll never beat fascism. The “critical thinking” skills you’re talking about simply don’t exist or aren’t well-developed in most of the American (or really, world) population. The average person does not care about politics, so you have to make them care and no matter how good your stick is if there’s no carror it won’t stick. Voters can wait hours in polling stations to vote for the smaller shit sandwich against the bigger shit sandwich, or they can just… not do that and go about their day. The consequences will only come later, meanwhile the disappointment and indignation come now. Humans simply aren’t made to take the lesser evil here.
2-Voting for a politician is an inherently transactional affair. You vote for them and if they gain power they use it to pass the bills you want them to pass, or at least prevent bills you don’t want to pass from passing. The Democrats stopped honoring that transaction, and in their misguided rightward shift crossed too many red lines. They angered Muslims and progressives by their stance on Gaza, they angered left-leaning Latinos by their stance on immigration, and angered the average voter by pretending that the economy was fine and that they were doing a terrific job when it was not and they were not, etc etc. I remember seeing a comment here a little ways back saying something to the effect of “I’m a Latino and I used to vote blue because of immigration, but now they adopted the republican position so they lost my vote”. Repeat this enough times and you have a significant fraction of their support base saying “you don’t care about me or my struggles? Then fuck you too” and not voting on election day.
Warn democrats that this is happening and they call you a russian trumper and blame you when they lose.
We it’s a good thing the Democratic Party has a history of listening to incredibly obvious poll results…shit.
It’s almost as though the people don’t like it when you lie to them about genocide or the failing mental acuity of your candidate.
But that can’t be true, they voted for Trump.
They just didn’t vote.
Eh.
Give it 4 years (at least) of non-stop increasing fascism under Republicans and people will begin having a more favorable view of Democrats.
Then give it a few more years for dumbass Americans to forget all about the darkness and vote their abusers back in because Democrats didn’t fix every problem known to man.
We’re not asking Dems to deliver a utopia, but to have standards that go beyond “normalcy”. Those dumbass Americans have standards, that is why more people didn’t vote for Trump than did.
We’re not asking Dems to deliver a utopia
Well, considering Americans went with an anti-democratic felon rapist instead of a run-of-the-mill Democrat, it certainly appears Americans have an unrealistically high standard for Democrats, or they simply go with fascist rapists instead.
But hey, guess we’ll learn the hard way to temper our expectations.
Unrealistic? Go on RedNote for a week and come back and say that.
That’s so strange after all of the they did in the last election cycle, or how they stood up for and made sure that .
