Comes as NO SURPRISE
Their level of cruelty is just expected now, huh. Sad times.
I dont think these people realize how close they are to being ripped apart in the street by an angry mob…and I kind of hope they don’t realize it until its too late.
You’re way more optimistic than me about the future of America.
The angry mob came when they didn’t win the election 4 years ago.
Really? The people affected by this wanted this turd in the office or at least didn’t have a problem enough with him to go vote for someone else.
Because the people who need this money are leading rough, rough lives already and often don’t have the time or energy to properly learn politics. They’re the kind of people who can’t afford to miss work or look after their family to vote.
They’re victims of their circumstances and now they’re going to suffer more for it. They’re not the enemies here.
Socialism for the Rich. Rugged individualism for the Poor.
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I don’t understand why do people upvote this.
Fuck so-called socialism, anarchism, communism and other far-left or extreme ideologies, and collectivism too (where everyone is poor).
Individualism made living for the people better. Democracies were based on individualism (and liberalism), where they care about every person.
What do you need is to not to build another system, but to make rule of law and regulations strong. In the EU, for example, and around the world, there is problem not in social democracy/liberal democracy, but with economic inequality.
But you’re just want to trick Americans to another utopia, fairytales like “capitalism = evil”. It will eventually turn into chaos, tyranny, and then there will dictator after dictator. Again, there will be small group of rich people, who will be oppress everyone, deprive food from them, don’t care about basic needs of population. They will steal resources from the country, but regular people in the country will be poor.
Look at Russia or China, where they also thought that all problems with
If individualism is so great and socialism so horrible why do the rich get constant support from the government? Shouldn’t they be the best at being individuals? Why is it the poor are expected to make do with little to no help? But the rich walk into the upper reaches of government for simply graduating high school?
You say if we get rid of our economic system it will cause a resurgence of a small ruling elite who will oppress everyone, deprive them of food. And they won’t care about the basic needs of the population. Did you not see Trump turn off Medicaid? Have you not checked the grocery prices lately?
You also make the mistake of an either/or fallacy. It’s either unregulated capitalism, or centrally planned communism. But that’s just not how the world works. For example we can have a market economy with government administered health, education, telecoms, and mass transit. A guaranteed job program is not incompatible with private industry.
Finally, you responded to a sarcastic remark about how our country treats the different classes with this utterly crap take that ironically demonstrates the exact problem. The second someone mentions the dreaded S word the woodworks bleed people running to shout about Totalitarian rule like we would be forced to give up Democracy. All to defend the system that supports people who were born with a silver spoon and oppresses those born into a family of debt.
As a note - Something to think about, the Annual US GDP is 27 Trillion dollars. Evenly split among all adults that’s over 100,000 dollars. Hardly poverty…
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LMFAO, WHAT BENEFITS?!?!?
While I agree the US does a fraction of what they could: Social Security
Medicare
Medicaid
WIC
HUD
ESG
COC
Department of Education
The list goes on and on. If you think there aren’t a LOT of social programs that they can cut, you are in for a very, very rough time.
I sympathize with the commentor who you are responding to although I know my present crap life could always get worse and probably will. Just doesn’t feel like much to lose
Buddy, I’m being sarcastic here. I KNOW they’re gonna destroy tons of public services like that. The cruelty is the point.
Hmm interesting how all the efficiency that they are introducing requires cutting benefits. Almost as if they were pleasing the 1% or something.
almost as if it were billionaires working for the benefit of other billionaires…
Idk how it hasn’t occurred to these billionaires yet that some of those few benefits are what keeping people from going full Luigi. They keep fucking around.
Don’t forget the new tax plan also includes tax increases for us plebs too!
Cut benefits, increase payments! Good job Magoos!
But the price for food is down… It is, right?
Its going to double or tripple if we deport or scare half the ag workforce away and don’t offer an exorbitant wage to do the time sensitive work leading to food rotting
He’ll probably just use prisoners.
National sales tax incoming.
Don’t start giving Mango Mussolini any ideas.
What do you think Tariffs are? It’s the Trump Sales Tax.
I thought the Trump sales tax was the $64B crypto rug-pull he did on his sycophants.
Oh they’ve been proposing that for years.
Oh I know, just making jokes to compensate for the crushingly depressive state of things.
cutting taxes for the wealthy could risk damaging the populist image that Trump has cultivated.
It’s never seemed to damage his image with his supporters before. He could hold them down and shit into their mouths and they’d find a reason to think it was an ok thing to do
He wouldn’t need to hold them down. They would be lining up for it.
Many of his supporters don’t consider themselves poor or middle-class, they consider themselves pre-millionaires.
When I was a kid, I was told that “The American Dream” was a house and two cars. At some point along the way, that morphed into “anyone can be a millionaire.”
Have it. Don’t want it. New American dream is to be able to fuck off in the woods for weeks at a time, and still have medical care.
Probably about the time it started taking a million dollars to comfortably maintain a house and two cars…
That’s because in many places you need to be a millionaire to get that two story ranch style house and 2 cars made in the last 5 years.
He’s feeding the poor!!
To the rich. 🫤
Let them eat eggs.
I knew this would happen and loads of people on lemmy accused me of “fearmongering” or “only caring about myself” when I said I’d vote Harris
With me, at least, they have moved on to, “you care more about your gay daughter than Palestinians!” Which… yeah. That’s called parenting. Along with, “why are you worried about a queer genocide that hasn’t happened yet?!” Because I don’t want to chance it? People can be such assholes.
It’s like yeah.
If both candidates mean gaza is fucked, but one of them means hundreds of thousands of extra unnecessary deaths to disabled people, homeless people, migrants, poor people, queer and trans people etc.
Of fucking course I’ll pick the least bad option instead of being apathetic about it. Especially since I’m a disabled poor person who has had bouts of homelessness.
These same people do not seem to understand that “least bad option” does not mean “good option.” Some of them are now justifying it by saying Harris supports genocide but all Trump supports is ethnic cleansing. Seriously.
I have always taken the advice of W.C. Fields: “I never vote for, only against.” Because there has never been a politician in my adult life that I would have voted for in a general presidential election. Or even a senatorial election,
Same. I’m an anarchist. I don’t believe in this distorted liberal democratic system that seems to benefit the elite no matter the outcome.
But I sure as hell am going to exercise my right to vote. It being a shitty system where I have little power doesn’t mean I should throw away the power I do have!
“Kamala Harris is not the perfect progressive candidate in every way. How can I possibly vote for her? I’ll sit this one out. That’ll show 'em!”
People need to accept that the electoral system in the US is just a trolley problem at the end of the day unfortunately.
At this point the trolley problem is "would you like to vote for killing 1000 per year for the next four years or would you like to vote for killing 4000 people this year with the hope that maybe it’ll cause the whole trolley system to self destruct…? (The numbers are purely illustrative).
Edit: apparently it’s not obvious that I think these are both horrible options, and I voted for the limping painfully along for an extended period.
Making things worse based on the idiotic hope that it might somehow magically spark things to get better is the absolute dumbest fucking idea one can have.
That isn’t how trolleys work.
If by “trolley system to self-destruct” you mean violent revolution and a new system of government imperfect in a completely different way, yes. Good luck with the wait.
That’s exactly what I mean, and I agree that it sounds awful. It’s like people go into these conversations deciding which side the other person is on based on which they can argue the most with.
At least you’re honest about this half-baked excuse for a plan
I voted for her because she was the lesser evil, but describing her as just “not the perfect progressive candidate in every way” is a gross misrepresentation. She was probably the most right leaning Democratic candidate to run in a general election and was openly adopting many of the Republican stances. There were basically two Republicans running.
Single issue voters are the reason the USA is now a dictatorship building concentration camps. That’s not an opinion.
There were basically two Republicans running.
Fucking absurd. There is a reason you don’t name one specific
Really? She was to the right of the Clintons? Obama? John Kerry, even? I think you have a selective memory.
That’s nuts. “Only voting for yourself” is usually a trump vote. Generally, a Left-wing voter asks “What’s best for everyone?” and a Right-wing voter asks “What’s best for me?”
Of course, the Democrat party isn’t left-wing (more like middle-right) but still, it’s a far less selfish vote than trump.
I don’t know about your life, but my life is made better by the acceptance and participation of all sorts of people. I’m selfishly voting for Democrats because I have 4 daughter and a gay son.
My wife and I make enough money and I could be happy on less if it improved the environment around me by improving the lives of the people I share the world with. Those brown people would be a hell of a lot less scary to us white people if so many of them weren’t in desperate financial straits, and if we didn’t teach them to expect hatred and cruelty from us.
I’m a selfish-as-fuck-left-wing-voter.
Amen brother, a rising tide raises all ships
