Context: https://lemmy.world/comment/14613536 Screenshotted context just in case:
A user claims that the killing in Palestine stopped under Biden now. I point out that biden had full-throatedly supported the genocide for over a year. A mod deletes my post and says that biden didn’t “state” (keyword here) full-throated support for genocide.
I counter by saying I consider sending billions in support of genocide counts as full-throated support for genocide. I also point out that I didn’t say Biden stated his support for genocide and that he didn’t need to outright state it because actions speak louder than words.
I receive a temp ban for that counter and the mod adds a response where they claim the weapons were “provided for defense from Iran, full stop.” which sounds to me like actual misinformation because how the hell does bombing hospitals in Gaza defend Israel from Iran? I’m not bothered by their stupid opinion, but I am bothered that they are enforcing it through moderation.
I ran into a similar moderation problem on the Political Memes community also on .world, but I didn’t bother making a post here for that because that’s just a dumb meme community and I was better off just blocking it, but now this is concerning a world news community and it’s awful to see something like this happening in a community that’s supposed to keep people aware of the news.
But hey, maybe I’m wrong and it actually is misinformation to say it’s full-throated support of genocide to send billions in weapons to a country using those weapons to commit genocide. Please let me know what you think!
Thats not the purpose of the US sending aid to Israel. Can you prove the exact weapons used were provided by the US? Bombing hospitals does sound like something you should never do, but I think Israel would say certain ones were used as Hamas command centers.
(1) War is not genocide. Genocide is genocide. Although It true that the Israeli PM seems to have dragged out the conflict way too long. Should have taken a few months tops to take over the entire region and establish safe zones.
(2) The US sending aid is not “full throated support for genocide”. You can say that, but no normal person thinks that and most are silently rolling their eyes. Biden in fact did send at least one ultimatum to Israel threatening to cut off aid if they continued doing X.
It’s borderline. The exact point where hyperbole rises to the level of outright misinformation is a grey area. You don’t know whether any specific weapons sent were used in the war at all, let alone used in any alleged intentional killings. And even isolated intentional killings would not be “genocide”, they would be war crimes. Israel has a terrible PM right now but I don’t think the Israeli leaders would be stupid enough to have some secret goal of exterminating all Gazans. Most US military aid is things like anti-missile defense.
It’s not a secret, they are openly calling palestinians animals who should be eradicated.
Who is? Do you have video of the Israeli PM saying that? Or are you talking about an angry family member of a Hamas kidnap victim? You are acting like this is all one sided and nobody else is to blame.
You know that Egypt could have allowed refuge camps to provide safe zones right but didn’t do that right?
You know that Hamas could have ended it at any time by freeing the kidnap victims right? You know that they started the whole war right?
First of all please don’t call me “abnormal”.
Maybe the average american is so brainwashed he doesn’t see the problem in arming a genocidal regime but it’s an american problem. I assure you we rest of the world sees the issues.
Yes.
https://www.amnesty.org.uk/press-releases/usa-israel-has-used-us-made-arms-gaza-violation-international-law-new-report
Israel would claim that hospitals were being used as Hamas command centers because that’s the excuse they always use for their war crimes including the intentional killing of innocent people. The death toll in Gaza is about 50,000 and that’s likely under-counting it. How many of those people do you think are combatants? If you want to be charitable, at best Israel are grossly negligent preventing civilian deaths, but the evidence shows they’re intentionally targeting civilians and critical infrastructure that makes life possible in Gaza, hence the ruling by the ICC.
You call what the US sends to Israel “aid” and try to paint it as defensive, but there is nothing defensive about 2,000-pound bombs, especially when the targets are in such a densely-populated area like in Gaza. The goal to ethnically cleanse Gaza (and the rest of Palestine) is no secret. It’s been the mission of Israel since their establishment and all you have to do is look at the map of Israel and Palestine to see one clearly eating up the other. Given the monstrous actions by Israel, it is an unconscionable act to provide support to such a regime. Supporting a regime carrying out genocide means support for genocide, especially when that support consists of such powerful weaponry with no defensive purpose.
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