• spit_evil_olive_tips@beehaw.org
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    9 hours ago

    cheers to the NZ Herald for calling a spade a spade

    the cowards at the “paper of record” NY Times went with “Elon Musk Ignites Online Speculation Over the Meaning of a Hand Gesture”

    BBC: Elon Musk’s gesture at Trump rally draws scrutiny

    The Guardian: Elon Musk appears to make back-to-back fascist salutes at inauguration rally

    if Trump shot someone on 5th Ave these fucking lickspittles would probably give it a “President-involved shooting ignites debate over the limits of executive power” headline

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      The conversation is still about this clip and not the actual policy, though.

      Which I’m sure pisses Trump off, so there is that, but it maybe shows the press hasn’t learned anything. And it’s too late for the US, but there is still a far right surge to contain back in civilization, so it’s about time they figure it out.

      Note that I’m not including the UK there, Labour government or not. That BBC headline is at least as shocking as the event itself.

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        nah that’s how you flood the zone. it’s what the camp has being doing for years. announce something batsoot insane, do some publicity stunt that’s also kinda insane to drone out said thing, finish the announced thing, rinse and repeat. Musk learned it when he changed the then–Twitter logo to a Doge to flood against Epstein-related allegations.

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          It is definitely standard MO, and both press and online chatter are letting them get away with it, with no indication that will ever change so far.

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        I wonder if the US comes back from this, launches into a long series of progressive changes in the world’s biggest pendulum swing in centuries, and then all of Europe hits this fascist path it’s already starting in on, will Americans say snide things like “back in civilization”? Or will we know better?

        Probably not.

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          I mean, US conservatives are still mocking the French as cowardly, collaborationist and militarily ineffective on account of WW2, so if any of them need a ladder to get down from any high horses they may be stuck on I think I have one in the back.

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      If Daniel Penny had reasonable doubt of intentionally choking that homeless guy to death, then Musk definitely had reasonable doubt of intentionally doing the Nazi salute.

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      Not an American so I don’t really know ADL, but while it’s important to listen closely to organisations working against racism, they’re not always right and don’t have the final say in all matters.

      Elon heiled for everyone to see.

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      The ADL also thinks gluing coins to the road is a hate symbol. Not worth taking them seriously.

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        • Octopus: Antisemitic
        • “Ok” hand gesture: Antisemitic
        • Not buying a SodaStream: Antisemetic
        • Nazi salute: Hey let’s not misinterpret this one!
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            SodaStream is a target of the pro-Palestine BDS movement.

            Zionists, like the freaks they are, say that being pro-Palestine is equivalent to antisemitism. Presumably that comment refers to Zionists who view buying a SodaStream as a badge of honor or act of nobility, though I personally haven’t seen anyone say that outright.

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              Man, I needed a reminder on what SodaStream even was, I assumed they went bankrupt years ago. Thanks for the context.

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                I’ve had one for years, and always have cold water in the fridge ready to make sparkling water.

                And my energy company is Octopus!

                Didn’t realise that all this time I’d been a Nazi 🤔

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    Said on Mastodon, will repeat here:

    This is the least surprising thing since that thing that wasn’t very surprising.

    To every Yankee reading this, I just hope you guys are like. Safe. Shit’s gonna hit the mega fan over there it seems.