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morrowind@lemmy.ml to Technology@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago

As US TikTok users move to RedNote, some are encountering Chinese-style censorship for the first time

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As US TikTok users move to RedNote, some are encountering Chinese-style censorship for the first time

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As US TikTok users move to RedNote, some are encountering Chinese-style censorship for the first time | CNN Business
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Chinese social media platform Xiaohongshu, also known as RedNote, has been hiring for a surprising position in recent days: English-language content moderators.
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    In a separate post, a male user expressed frustration after RedNote censored a photo of his upper body. “Why can’t I post photos of my fitness and abs?” he asked, adding he had “never had such a problem on TikTok and Instagram.”

    A Chinese user suggested that he try covering his nipples, as Chinese social media platforms generally impose restrictions on displaying them when it is perceived as sexually suggestive.

    Oof ouch my male privilege

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      Oof I’m glad to see we are learning the right lessons from this.

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      Sure, the problem is, that male nipples are allowed in the West, not the other way round…

    • Boomkop3@reddthat.comBanned
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      Meh, that’s just a cultural difference

  • IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    deleted by creator

    • Ulrich@feddit.org
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      Try testing your “fediverse freedom” on .ml and see how long your account lasts.

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        Can just switch to the next instance. There are dozens!

        But seriously fucking the tankies.

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          Truth. But there’s something to be said for such large instances.

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            What is that something? “I am dissatisfied with how that instance that I’m not on and don’t need to use is run?” What are you whining about?

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              I can tell by your accusation of “whining” that you have no interest in a logical discussion so I’ll pass, thanks.

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        • Ulrich@feddit.org
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          Good thing no one said that.

      • airportline@lemmy.ml
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        lemmy.ml is not even a large instance compared to lemmy.world or lemm.ee

        • Ulrich@feddit.org
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          It’s not even that big compared to literally the two largest instances!

          • airportline@lemmy.ml
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            Yeah, actually. Of the top five four instances by MAU according to FediDB, lemmy.ml has 9% of the total user base.

            I know there a pie charts that illustrate this point better, but I can’t find them right now.

            • Ulrich@feddit.org
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              So here’s a question: how many of the top active communities does it host?

              • airportline@lemmy.ml
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                According to lemmyverse.net,

                One out of the top ten when sorting by MAU. That community is !memes@lemmy.ml.

                Say what you will about the Lemmy devs and their political leanings, but they did a great job at ensuring the broader Lemmy community would not centralize onto their instance.

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                  So 10% of the top 10? How about the top 50?

    • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.works
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      You want to test that “Fediverse Freedom” say “every billionaire in the world, their wives, parents and children shall be torn apart with random farming machinery and/or prostituted to death whichever is funnier” and see what happens.

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        Was something supposed to happen?

      • skulblaka@sh.itjust.works
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        crickets

      • Goun@lemmy.ml
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        every billionaire in the world, their wives, parents and children shall be torn apart with random farming machinery and/or prostituted to death whichever is funnier

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        Say that 14 years ago on reddit, and nobody would give a shit. Say it today on Lemmy and it’s not protected speech.

        • Boomkop3@reddthat.comBanned
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          Why should it be?

    • morrowind@lemmy.mlOP
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      Average fedizen complaining about propaganda when they see fediverse propaganda

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        Let’s just water down that word until it means nothing…

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    surprised pikachu face

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    Really because I’m also seeing that LGBTQIA+ posting on rednote is accepted so which is it guys? Let’s find out

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      They’re scrambling to hire more mods, especially for english rn, so I wouldn’t pass judgement yet

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      There’s tons of it, even in Chinese so I call bullshit

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        Same, these media outlets post pure trash just to get people to view them.

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      LGBT content on rednote is usually posted with #le and #wlw, as far as I heard.

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      China is very accepting of LGBTQ. They welcome LGBTQ themes in their movies and media.

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      Try posting a picture of Winnie the Pooh and see what that gets you.

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      deleted by creator

  • werefreeatlast@lemmy.worldBanned
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    Tiktok…we got Loops. Just sign up!

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      It’s still in closed beta. You can’t “just sign up.”

      • Revv
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        You can. You sign up on the website, you get an email telling you to install the app a day or two later. It’s a very open “closed beta”

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          Huh. I’ll do that later today then

        • katy ✨
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          And on Android, you just have to download the apk. I believe the delay is just a Testpilot thing.

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            Do they have their own app now?

            • katy ✨
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              Do you mean Loops?

              • Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works
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                You got a link to that? Because I can’t find a download, the Loops site doesn’t even list it for me.

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                  Sorry, I only did a screenshot because I had to log in to get it on the dashboard. It’s here: https://loops.video/dashboard/get-the-app

                  You can try this but I don’t know if it will work not logged in. It’s the link from “Download Loops APK”: https://loops.video/beta/app/android

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      @werefreeatlast @morrowind there is a fedi tictoc equivalent?

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        https://loops.video/

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      Loops isn’t as good and xiahongshu is fun in a seperate way than tiktok

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        I love how separately fun you must be.

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    I can talk about Palestine without having my comments removed or shadowbanned. US social media is run by Zionists.

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      And tiananmen square?

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        Its not run by Zionists

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          No, mentioning the square in rednote?

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            People have been doing that tons - It’s not being censored. Personally I assume this is due to western propaganda overstating the degree of censorship in china and rednote not being set up to moderate the large amounts of english content they’re now getting.

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            It’s worth mentioning that 60% of TikTok is owned by international investors, a fact that escapes the anti China hysteria

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              Interesting how you completely avoid the question 🤔

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                You can post about the currently occuring genocide sponsored by our government.

                But can you post about the genocide that’s been a meme my entire life??!?

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                  And somehow, still, nobody has answered it 🤔 almost as if someone said they weren’t allowed to

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                Because your question doesn’t make any sense?

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      tool

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        TikTok was banned because of Zionist lobbying to censor pro Palestinian content.

        US Social media platforms like Meta have been aggressively censoring Palestinian content.

        https://www.hrw.org/report/2023/12/21/metas-broken-promises/systemic-censorship-palestine-content-instagram-and

        https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/meta-censorship-devastating-palestinian-news-sources

        Jonathan Greenblatt. ADL director gave it away last year in a leaked recording when he said “we have a TikTok problem”.

        https://youtube.com/shorts/0f4cbLic3aA?si=uvk6cBVqPksRScBU

        Here he is being even more explicit:

        https://x.com/GozukaraFurkan/status/1878466080840065193?t=Dn0e4zeJyptwcGL7pmpM0Q&s=19

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          pfff tiktok allowed hamas propaganda. thats what they did. they paved way for facist views. patriachy, misogyny…you name it.shit ceo. shit china.

          fuck hamas. fuck herzbülläh. fuck iran.

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    I smell the same flavour of bullshit about RedNote that I do/did about Bluesky. The articles are so obviously Astro turfing.

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      Twitter and all its alternatives always tend to get inflated coverage because twitter was essentially the journalists’ app, so they write about it more. Bluesky was the first “real” alternative I guess.

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      Bluesky is “fine” if what you want is Twitter without [as much] fascism. It’s a better user experience than Mastodon. The average user doesn’t care about federation and all the rough edges where you have to understand technical details in order to understand what’s going on is frustrating for them.

      I hope Mastodon learns some lessons from Bluesky (curated follow/block lists, and curated feed algorithms) but I still hope federation is the future. Bluesky will eventually enshittify because it has financial backers who want a return and could give a fuck about uses or ethics. But for the time being it’s a good platform, and perhaps more importantly the best shot at breaking Twitter, and I will strategically support it while it remains a good alternative.

      Rednote I have no idea about. Not happy about Chinese propaganda and censorship, but not any happier about right-wing American propaganda and censorship, so fuck it. I haven’t made an account yet but I might at some point. TikTok was by far the best algorithm at delivering what I want to see in the moment, and as I only spent a handful of minutes a day on TikTok on average, that’s really valuable.

      Insta is useless as you seem to have to curate your feed to only be a single thing. Plus, fuck Meta in the ear. So if Rednote gets the content creators and the algorithm, I’ll probably check it out eventually.

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        Bluesky is okay. And they have a few novel concepts around monetization. And I love the personalized feeds. But it’s just a matter of time. The more users they get, the bigger the offer gets from Zuck and Musk and databrokers, etc.

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          There’s already an initiative to launch a third-party ATProto relay. Hopefully soon enough, we’ll be able to post on Bluesky without relying on Bluesky PBLLC’s infrastructure.

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    what no way that’s insane no way to have foreseen that unpossible completely from out of left field actual mental institution status confirmed oh shit pizzas done l8ter dudes

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      Can I offer you some punctuation in these trying times?

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        It’s times, like, this I miss CommaHorror

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          Can I offer to take away some punctuation from you in these trying times?

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    social media users calling themselves refugees and colonizing an app used by chinese and chinese americans just doesnt sit well with me, especially since it will just lead to chinese americans getting segregated from mainland chinese or having it banned completely.

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    I wonder how many actually notice

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