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Brexit is still delivering all the "I told you so"s. It’s less fun than it sounds.
Yeah, people keep saying “This time they’ll see!” But, aside from the occasional “leopards ate my face” moment, the same people keep lining up for more of the same.
And much of the consequences are sloughed off on the people who are fighting hardest against it.
They’re fucking around, and we end up finding out.
Oh, don’t worry, on a long enough timeline, everyone ends up finding out. It’s just that if they were capable of figuring it out, this all would have been avoided in the first place.
It’s been nearly 10 years and we’re still getting fucked by it.
I was in the US for the first trump election and in Britain for Brexit. And now I’m back in the US for this shitshow. It’s like I can’t escape the crazy – it’s following me.
Or maybe it’s all my fault and I’m a bad talisman. I dunno, just please make it stop.
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What does it mean and whats the context? Actually curious as an ignorant non spanish speaking EU person.
In English, it’s more or less telling people to “enjoy what you (all) voted for”.
ah yes, the illusion of my vote mattering in my state, topped with an icing of illusion of the candidates undemocratically selected by my party representing my views in any way whatsoever. But I’m told it was on me to get off my couch and go vote for one genocider or one that was very likely a genocider, but also a complete fascist nutter. Both choices have broken laws that should have put them behind bars for the rest of their lives.
Really, this is all my fault. Why am I so terrible?
very likely a genocider
There are a lot of things to be said about Trump, but we’ve actually had positive headlines regarding genocide heading into his presidency, and it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office. Genocide Joe is just going to stack corpses until they wheel him out of the White House.
I don’t say this pretending that there isn’t likely some profit in it for Trump, because we saw in his first term that every decision he makes profits him financially in some way, but grift is better than more dead civilians.
it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office.
It’s no coincidence like it’s no coincidence that paying extortion money avoids broken kneecaps.
Its well documented that Netanyahu and Trump are buddy buddy. I guarantee you the timing was to some degree chosen explicitly to benefit Trump. Netanyahu is doing the kinds of things over there that Trump is just itching to do here. (or in Canada or in Mexico)
If Trump gets any credit here it’s for being every bit as moustache-twirling-evil as Netanyahu such that their worldview and interests will tend to align.
I’d like to argue with that, but you are factually correct.
I hope you understand I was only translating the phrase. I agree with the sentiment toward the MAGOOs, but everyone else is a victim of their idiocy.
Edit: I meant to write MAGAs but MAGOOs at least makes me laugh.
I kinda like magoo vs maga. It feels a little like something someone’s old-world Italian uncle would have called a person in anger and disdain.
Still pretty fun not being in the UK. Though I do feel bad for everyone not having voted for this shit.
I don’t think it’s exactly going to be fun, I just know the only pleasure that’s left is schadenfreude.
Yep, even though millions died, we are not saying I told you so cause them idiots doubled down on it and got so obnoxious that the I told you so energy died.
No, it’s not going to be “I told you so.”
Conservatives will still blame Biden and dems for all the problems.
Yup, they still deflect to Hillary’s emails and shit when you call out new cabinet positions. If we could harness their mental gymnastics into physical energy we’d solve the climate crisis.
Over Christmas my mom showed me her new “Lock Her Up!” shirt. It’s been almost 10 years since Clinton has been relevant, move on.
When there is no big cultural identity for everyone to pretend to be or superheroes, pirates or whatever, this is the culture that idiots have to latch onto.
Makes them still feel like they are part of a club that secludes others.
Also, there’s a lot of people that will say, “don’t be mean to them, that never changes their mind!” “talk to them, be empathetic”
Man, anyone suffering after voting for Trump deserves a big “fuck you”.
Yeah, I will never forgive a 2024 Trump voter. They know who they voted for, they know who he is. No excuses this time. Trump voters claiming ignorance this time will not be accepted.
Right, there’s no satisfaction in pointing out the results of a conservative power grab. Their narcissism makes them immune to introspection or self-awareness.
Not if historic patterns repeat.
Clinton, Dubya, Obama, and Trump all went into office with control of Congress and lost it at the mid-terms, so it’s not unlikely that a portion of voters will flip in 2026.
They’ll be back in 2028 though, when the Dems nominate Gavin Newsom and try replay this ‘joy and unity’ bullshit again.
It’s the deeeeeep state!
Don’t forget the “I wish dems did better!”. You and me. Both but… Buckle up.
Who cares about conservatives? we talkin about who didnt vote or those “swing voters”
We talkin bout practice.
“You fuckers asked for this so either shut up or move”
Going to be the only thing keeping me going
I’m buying a bunch of “I did that!” Trump stickers to slap on empty grocery shelves. That’s gonna be fun.
Yep those things need to be EVERYWHERE after they had those dumbass Biden ones, and the best part is that this time they’ll actually be correct
I picked up rows and rows of “Billionaires shouldn’t exist” and “No human is illegal” myself. I need to see if my old ass shitty canon can print on sticker paper. Maybe get back into making stencils.
Bold of you to think it will end in 4 years.
2016: “it’s no like roe is going away! People are over reacting!” 2024: “…”
I can’t imagine the cognitive dissonance these fascists are going to deal with.
Unfortunately for the majority of them it won’t be a problem. He’ll perform exactly as desired “owning the libtards” and getting rid of “the immigrants”. I wish I had a more optimistic outlook on the next 4yr but frankly we already know how it will go from his last term. At least to an extent.
The “Don’t blame us we didn’t vote for him” crowd immediately turned around and a day later switched to “It doesn’t matter if you voted for him, he’s still your president” and didn’t miss a step. They are fuckin mental contortionists.
What?
Like I’m actually confused, what?
I’m not exactly sure either but the “not my president” thing seems to be primarily but not exclusively used by conservatives when they’re not in power.
But lack of progressive messaging, the genocide, and doubling down on neo liberal policies actively suppressed the vote. I blame the people who stayed home, but the blame for them doing so is exclusively on Joe Biden who will be remembered as the president who enabled Trump the second term and everything that that enables.
Probably the end of democracy in the US and likely a form of techno-monarchy and neo-feudalism.
Time to study the French Revolution comrades!
You already can. Just look at how liberals are literally going insane, having delusions and hallucinations because they fundamentally cannot comprehend the inherent contradictions of their own existence.
Huh, a rare Lemmy conservative. Take a photo, kids.
In spite of themselves. Despair is a useless emotion.
Yeah. Idk how I feel about this gotcha perspective when trans people and undocumented immigrants are facing state violence on a nearly existential level. Like, is this your response to that? To adopt this smug affect and do nothing? Business as usual for you, I suppose.
You’ll have to forgive me for taking this post very literally. I am very scared for what is going to happen to my friends and loved ones in the coming weeks.
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So
- Have money
- Have money
- Have money
Got it
Those 2 options both depend on having money to fund your escape. People unfortunately can’t just leave. Children can’t just leave.
then you have nothing to lose. join the resistance.
Four years? In ten years from now, the elections of 2024 will be called the ‘Last Elections’ and President Musk will arrest people who will call for their return.
I’m expecting a total collapse before that happens.
One can only hope. Death to the genocidal empire
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I’m not an accelerationist, I’m just not a citizen of the US and the faster the empire dies, the better for the rest of the world.
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you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you
Why would I care what Trump loves? Again, not USian.
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
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Climate change wasn’t real enough for half the country, so now everyone has to suffer.
Because the past few years were good, no complicity in genocide or anything.
Edit: you are free to downvote but you can’t hate Arabs and Muslims and at the same time expect them to vote for you. At least conservatives are honest about being hateful.
So you’d rather vote for the people who want to actively kill you, instead of the ones that mostly just ignore your problems? That’s just fucking stupid.
You claim Biden/Harris were NOT" people who want to actively kill you". But the shipping of weapons and coverage for war crimes in the UN proves you’re just living in a fantasy world. You need to be serious about this stuff and acknowledge the truths of what they did.
Have a look at the American political landscape. If you can’t understand the difference between the Democrats and the Republicans when it comes to the topic of Israel/Palestine, then you have no business commenting on it.
Sounds like you think everyone who disagrees with you “cant understand”. You must be fun at parties.
So you’d rather vote for the people who want to actively kill you
Where did they say they voted Republican?
instead of the ones that mostly just ignore your problems?
Democrats didn’t “ignore” the genocide, they funded it and enabled it
Democrats don’t like it when you tell them that Biden will only be remembered as the person who enabled the Palestinian genocide. But it’s true.
They even dehumanize and demonize Palestinians just to justify their support for Biden. Tribal mentality at its finest.
I am quickly learning that I should keep my distance and not engage. People who deny things that are clear as day are either lying or choose to be willfully ignorant.
Are you one of trumpsters, that didn’t understood, that Trump will be worse to Palestinians? God I’m tired of hearing this shit…
No, Green Party. I voted for Jill Stein.
In which case you’ve indirectly given Trump a higher chance of winning (sorry…). I’m also voting green here in Europe, but there’s a slight difference with the electoral system. In the USA, I would’ve had to vote for the democrats, not because I really support their ideas, but because they’re the only party that has a realistic chance of winning apart from the drumpsters. It’s the sad reality. I hope USA at some point changes their voting system to be more democratic, but right now it’s choosing between the lesser evils…
So, the argument you have is that voting doesn’t matter individually, only in aggregate. I don’t buy that, but even if I did, I live in a blue state. My state would’ve gone to Harris no matter who I voted for.
My state would’ve gone to Harris no matter who I voted for.
Ok, that’s actually a reason I accept.
So, the argument you have is that voting doesn’t matter individually, only in aggregate.
Not entirely. In democracies that e.g. use coalitions to get the majority, like a lot of european democracies, this absolutely makes a difference. But the USA just naturally leans towards this 2-party system. Which btw. degrades the “democratic” aspect quite significantly (i.e. USA is quite low on the democratic index compared to e.g. Norway).
there’s a slight difference with the electoral system.
Big part of the difference being that people actuslly vote for third candidates lmao
If everyone would sync up and vote together for a different party, it would make a (big) difference. But hey let’s be realistic… I’m extremely idealistic and take every opportunity to change this fucked up system/world to the better. But still I’m living too long on this planet to not be realistic and just see, that there’s unfortunately way less people really wanting to change this system apparently, or rather(?) not seeing what could be done when working together (it’s not even that many people even to make a significant change when e.g. protesting), but it’s this: “working together” where we’re just failing bad, the world is too scattered to see this, and instead further and further falls for the technofeudal (increasingly oligarchic) system that builds and abuses on emotions (mostly anxiety)…
So instead a lot of people vote for whatever candidate sugar-coats and bleats (and lies) the loudest - sadly.
If you want to lose in 2028, just stick with that smug nonsense, even though you know it doesn’t work to win people to your side. Dems have spent the last three elections driving away votes they need if they want to win, and eventually you’re going to have to learn to engage with people in a reasonable way if that’s what you want.
It is wild, though, that after three disastrous elections in a row (and yes, I"m counting Biden barely squeaking to a win as disastrous) you still think it’s a good idea to annoy the shit out of everyone in your social circle.
There is nothing smug about this. This post isn’t about winning people to “our” side. It’s about a dark acceptance of the downfall of society. One that anyone who’s been paying attention has seen coming for a long time. We vote, we gripe online. It does nothing. Because it’s designed to do nothing. We recognize it yet, it’s all we can do. We either hold hands or we fight. Either way we burn together.
It’s 100% smug.
If the problems that began under Biden continue under Trump, and your message isn’t 100% “Come back to the Democrats. This is how we’re going to make it better,” along with a solid plan to actually do it, you will lose again. The words “I told you so,” shouldn’t even be in your vocabulary anymore after the last three elections.
Yeahhhh grab em by the p, alt Reich!!!
I’m not alt-right.
I’m not even a Trump supporter.
I can, however, look at the last three elections and watch the results of you and yours making it very clear you don’t want people’s votes. Making people despise you isn’t working.
Found the “secret” conservative. Peddle your dumb rhetoric elsewhere, convervatives have been more hateful and despiseable for decades. Reasonable people are fed up with fascists trying to lie, cheat, and bully their way into everything, we’re totally allowed to be angry and it’s valid to express that. When Biden won, you assholes were so mad, the internet blew up with dumb right wing memes, “He StOlE ThE ElEcTiOn!!! So UnFaIr!!!” Fuck off.
Respectfully, you’re wrong.
I’m a Green. I don’t support Trump. I don’t support Biden, and I don’t pretend that I’m not a conservative (when conservative outcomes are what the person I voted for produces) just because my team wears a blue jersey as you do.
The new game from antagonists on Lemmy that get their kink off fighting is calling people secret conservatives. I really just try to avoid talking to them, it’s usually just to get a fight they can wank off to later.
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If you don’t like what I have to say, please just hit the block button and move on.
It isn’t rank-and-file Democrats. At least, not directly. It’s their shitty candidates. And they might’ve actually gotten Sanders nominated, if the DNC hadn’t forced Harris on us.
There was no way that Harris was going to win. It didn’t matter how nice or persuasive her supporters were. People could clearly see that she was an empty suit.
If you know it all, why don’t you know how to win an election?
Because you can’t fix stupid.
Don’t you realize what a tremendous self-own that is?
“We’re so dumb, we can’t even get stupid people to vote for us!”
Here’s an idea. How about asking the people what they need, and then making that your platform. Have you thought of that?
Feel free to do that then. I wish you the best of luck.
The problem is, the stupid people are angry, but barely know what they are angry about, so they will latch on to the first person that feeds their anger. Of course, feeding the anger will make things worse, but that doesn’t matter, since it feels good now. Now you have a double problem of the original issue still existing, and half the population asking you to make it worse, and getting mad at you when you don’t.
Basically, America is fucked, and I’m just hoping they can keep it limping along long enough for me to die of old age before it completely collapses.
They can’t win when they aren’t even allowed to pick the candidate. The DNC already plays with a stacked deck, but they still thought that the risk of a Sanders nomination was too likely. That’s why they forced Biden/Harris on us.
It’s been like that for the last 2 months.
Silver lining is that we’re looking at a clown-show fascist circus instead of an effective fascist takeover.
This might very well not (yet) be the “burning of the reichstag and declaration of the state of emergency” part of the fashist takeover. Trump is incompetent but if he does to much damage the government might just complety collapse and musk and zuck can enact a monarchy.
I am much more afraid of the people in the second row ready to take over than of trump himself.
They moved the innuagriation indoors because “reasons”. Monday is going to be fun, for sure.
Okay you said whatever you wanted. Now what?
“I told you so when I stayed home on voting day, didn’t oppose it, and blamed it on democrats while calling every leftist who isn’t just like me a fascist!”
-American leftists
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