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This is false and we know this from the pandemic.
Once you can’t agree on facts, you can’t be right retrospectively.
Millions of people died, if you google US yearly death rate you see a very obvious spike.
To me that is the smoking gun that the pandemic was in fact very deadly.
I haven’t been able to say I told you so to any anti vaxxer.
It’s not about logic, it’s about outrage, and that’s gonna increase moving forward.
Since you believe in facts so much, you must agree that during American hegemony the world has never been more prosperous.
Brexit is still delivering all the "I told you so"s. It’s less fun than it sounds.
Yep, even though millions died, we are not saying I told you so cause them idiots doubled down on it and got so obnoxious that the I told you so energy died.
Yeah, people keep saying “This time they’ll see!” But, aside from the occasional “leopards ate my face” moment, the same people keep lining up for more of the same.
And much of the consequences are sloughed off on the people who are fighting hardest against it.
They’re fucking around, and we end up finding out.
Oh, don’t worry, on a long enough timeline, everyone ends up finding out. It’s just that if they were capable of figuring it out, this all would have been avoided in the first place.
It’s been nearly 10 years and we’re still getting fucked by it.
I was in the US for the first trump election and in Britain for Brexit. And now I’m back in the US for this shitshow. It’s like I can’t escape the crazy – it’s following me.
Or maybe it’s all my fault and I’m a bad talisman. I dunno, just please make it stop.
I don’t think it’s exactly going to be fun, I just know the only pleasure that’s left is schadenfreude.
Still pretty fun not being in the UK. Though I do feel bad for everyone not having voted for this shit.
México too, we go with «Disfruten lo votado», bitches get mad about it
What does it mean and whats the context? Actually curious as an ignorant non spanish speaking EU person.
In English, it’s more or less telling people to “enjoy what you (all) voted for”.
ah yes, the illusion of my vote mattering in my state, topped with an icing of illusion of the candidates undemocratically selected by my party representing my views in any way whatsoever. But I’m told it was on me to get off my couch and go vote for one genocider or one that was very likely a genocider, but also a complete fascist nutter. Both choices have broken laws that should have put them behind bars for the rest of their lives.
Really, this is all my fault. Why am I so terrible?
very likely a genocider
There are a lot of things to be said about Trump, but we’ve actually had positive headlines regarding genocide heading into his presidency, and it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office. Genocide Joe is just going to stack corpses until they wheel him out of the White House.
I don’t say this pretending that there isn’t likely some profit in it for Trump, because we saw in his first term that every decision he makes profits him financially in some way, but grift is better than more dead civilians.
it’s no coincidence that the ceasefire in Gaza will go into effect when he takes office.
It’s no coincidence like it’s no coincidence that paying extortion money avoids broken kneecaps.
Its well documented that Netanyahu and Trump are buddy buddy. I guarantee you the timing was to some degree chosen explicitly to benefit Trump. Netanyahu is doing the kinds of things over there that Trump is just itching to do here. (or in Canada or in Mexico)
If Trump gets any credit here it’s for being every bit as moustache-twirling-evil as Netanyahu such that their worldview and interests will tend to align.
I’d like to argue with that, but you are factually correct.
I hope you understand I was only translating the phrase. I agree with the sentiment toward the MAGOOs, but everyone else is a victim of their idiocy.
Edit: I meant to write MAGAs but MAGOOs at least makes me laugh.
I kinda like magoo vs maga. It feels a little like something someone’s old-world Italian uncle would have called a person in anger and disdain.
It’s one thing knowing it’s going to happen, it’s going to be something else entirely when it does.
It’s like knowing you’re going to die. We all “know” our day is coming, but we don’t really appreciate that until we get old or someone close to us passes away.
Yeah. Idk how I feel about this gotcha perspective when trans people and undocumented immigrants are facing state violence on a nearly existential level. Like, is this your response to that? To adopt this smug affect and do nothing? Business as usual for you, I suppose.
You’ll have to forgive me for taking this post very literally. I am very scared for what is going to happen to my friends and loved ones in the coming weeks.
options are limited but they are there.
- stay in the dangerzone, conveniently marked in red on the map
- move to a blue state that has a solid track record. if you’re willing, flood red counties and turn them blue/purple to help maintain stability of the state
- leave the country, how long before cheeto king claims a blue state administration broke “federal laws” and arrests them and replaces them with loyalists?
So
- Have money
- Have money
- Have money
Got it
Those 2 options both depend on having money to fund your escape. People unfortunately can’t just leave. Children can’t just leave.
then you have nothing to lose. join the resistance.
It’s been like that for the last 2 months.
Silver lining is that we’re looking at a clown-show fascist circus instead of an effective fascist takeover.
This might very well not (yet) be the “burning of the reichstag and declaration of the state of emergency” part of the fashist takeover. Trump is incompetent but if he does to much damage the government might just complety collapse and musk and zuck can enact a monarchy.
I am much more afraid of the people in the second row ready to take over than of trump himself.
They moved the innuagriation indoors because “reasons”. Monday is going to be fun, for sure.
No, it’s not going to be “I told you so.”
Conservatives will still blame Biden and dems for all the problems.
Yup, they still deflect to Hillary’s emails and shit when you call out new cabinet positions. If we could harness their mental gymnastics into physical energy we’d solve the climate crisis.
Over Christmas my mom showed me her new “Lock Her Up!” shirt. It’s been almost 10 years since Clinton has been relevant, move on.
When there is no big cultural identity for everyone to pretend to be or superheroes, pirates or whatever, this is the culture that idiots have to latch onto.
Makes them still feel like they are part of a club that secludes others.
Also, there’s a lot of people that will say, “don’t be mean to them, that never changes their mind!” “talk to them, be empathetic”
Man, anyone suffering after voting for Trump deserves a big “fuck you”.
Yeah, I will never forgive a 2024 Trump voter. They know who they voted for, they know who he is. No excuses this time. Trump voters claiming ignorance this time will not be accepted.
Not if historic patterns repeat.
Clinton, Dubya, Obama, and Trump all went into office with control of Congress and lost it at the mid-terms, so it’s not unlikely that a portion of voters will flip in 2026.
They’ll be back in 2028 though, when the Dems nominate Gavin Newsom and try replay this ‘joy and unity’ bullshit again.
Right, there’s no satisfaction in pointing out the results of a conservative power grab. Their narcissism makes them immune to introspection or self-awareness.
Who cares about conservatives? we talkin about who didnt vote or those “swing voters”
We talkin bout practice.
It’s the deeeeeep state!
Don’t forget the “I wish dems did better!”. You and me. Both but… Buckle up.
I can’t imagine the cognitive dissonance these fascists are going to deal with.
Unfortunately for the majority of them it won’t be a problem. He’ll perform exactly as desired “owning the libtards” and getting rid of “the immigrants”. I wish I had a more optimistic outlook on the next 4yr but frankly we already know how it will go from his last term. At least to an extent.
The “Don’t blame us we didn’t vote for him” crowd immediately turned around and a day later switched to “It doesn’t matter if you voted for him, he’s still your president” and didn’t miss a step. They are fuckin mental contortionists.
What?
Like I’m actually confused, what?
I’m not exactly sure either but the “not my president” thing seems to be primarily but not exclusively used by conservatives when they’re not in power.
But lack of progressive messaging, the genocide, and doubling down on neo liberal policies actively suppressed the vote. I blame the people who stayed home, but the blame for them doing so is exclusively on Joe Biden who will be remembered as the president who enabled Trump the second term and everything that that enables.
Probably the end of democracy in the US and likely a form of techno-monarchy and neo-feudalism.
Time to study the French Revolution comrades!
You already can. Just look at how liberals are literally going insane, having delusions and hallucinations because they fundamentally cannot comprehend the inherent contradictions of their own existence.
Huh, a rare Lemmy conservative. Take a photo, kids.
In spite of themselves. Despair is a useless emotion.
“I told you so when I stayed home on voting day, didn’t oppose it, and blamed it on democrats while calling every leftist who isn’t just like me a fascist!”
-American leftists
no no. they called everyone a Nazi because they were supporting the genocide in Palestine.
everyday I’m on this platform I’m convinced that at least 70% of the content is generated by Russian and Chinese propagandists. because at the end of the day nobody can be this obtusely uneducated of the facts.
What is this picture?
Looks like it’s from the set of Game of Thrones.
Did you tell me that the dems would rather support a genocide than nominate a winning candidate? Cause I agree.
Or do you mean like how trump was supposed to be worse for palestinians than kamalacaust, but then dude got a ceasefire before even taking office? Because I never would’ve predicted that.
dude got a ceasefire before even taking office
Lol Trump was not responsible for the ceasefire. Read the news
If they read the news, they wouldn’t post the stupid stuff they post.
🤔
Simultaneously ‘Trump did not get the ceasefire’ and also ‘Netanyahu intentionally waited until after Trump won to agree to a ceasefire’
How are those contradictions? Netanyahu openly favored a trump win and agreeing to a ceasefire before the election would have favored Biden. Trump isn’t even in office, Biden has been pushing for a ceasefire for months.
It isn’t, unless you are looking to assign credit to Biden
Trump was 100% responsible for the ceasefire according to the news.
You’re telling me your guy could have done a ceasefire a year ago and he didn’t?
Jesus I hope he’s thrown in jail. What an evil person
your guy
Biden is not my guy, I hate the dude
Could have? Sure. Did he use any leverage whatsoever? No.
Can’t wait for Trump Tower to start construction on the pristine West Bank beachfront.
You do know that Trump did the exact opposite, right? He deliberately (and illegally, mind you) pressured Netanyahu not to accept any ceasefire deal until after the election, sacrificing thousands of innocent civilians to make sure he could campaign on the issue.
Wow, that would be a really big controversy in a normal world.
You do know Biden kept sending bombs to Israel which is the only reason the genocide was going on right?
To be fair, they would have gotten the bombs elsewhere. There’s no stopping a genocide when the international arms trade exists. Even if they had to buy US arms, another grey market partner would have filled the void…
Israel does not have the money for it. Biden funded 70% of the genocide.
Then it was incitement to commit genocide, which is a capital offense. You guys should have arrested him, you had a responsibility to the world.
Not while the Invade the Hauge act exists…
The orange dude DIDN’T get a cease fire. Hamas and the Palestinians realized that what Biden had to offer is better than the extinction that Trump will support.
That’s so wrong. The palestinians were ready to accept a ceasefire MONTHs ago.
Hamas accepted that deal in June. Netanyahu refused it. Trump made Netanyahu accept it
You are consuming extreme Democrat propaganda if you think Hamas blocked the deal.
Four years? In ten years from now, the elections of 2024 will be called the ‘Last Elections’ and President Musk will arrest people who will call for their return.
I’m expecting a total collapse before that happens.
One can only hope. Death to the genocidal empire
lovely, now Lemmy has accelerationists.
I’m not an accelerationist, I’m just not a citizen of the US and the faster the empire dies, the better for the rest of the world.
cool. you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you.
not sure of the logic that got you to “US democracy dies == good for the world” but you do you.
you’re just poorly educated. Trump loves you
Why would I care what Trump loves? Again, not USian.
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
US hegemony dies = good for the world. The US is the most evil country om Earth. Supporting genocide, invading Iraq and Afghanistan and Korea and Vietnam and Nicaragua and Guatemala and an endless list of countries, engaging in imperialism and unequal exchange, literally born out of genocide and slavery. Can’t wait to see the US crash and burn tbh
cool. I won’t dispute anything you said because I’m not trying to convince you, just educate.
so you know what happens when empires fall right? power vacuums! who do you think will try to become the worlds new power?
enjoy the endless wars and skirmishes as borders change and entire countries disappear overnight because the “evil hegemony, America” is gone! maybe not endless…but at least within some of our (albeit now shorter) lifetimes!
YAY! You win!
hope you aren’t draftable, or near a warzone, or…you know what you’ll find out.
“You fuckers asked for this so either shut up or move”
Going to be the only thing keeping me going
I’m buying a bunch of “I did that!” Trump stickers to slap on empty grocery shelves. That’s gonna be fun.
Yep those things need to be EVERYWHERE after they had those dumbass Biden ones, and the best part is that this time they’ll actually be correct
I picked up rows and rows of “Billionaires shouldn’t exist” and “No human is illegal” myself. I need to see if my old ass shitty canon can print on sticker paper. Maybe get back into making stencils.
Bold of you to think it will end in 4 years.
2016: “it’s no like roe is going away! People are over reacting!” 2024: “…”
