Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new “king”

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        still not a good look when your selling point was being outside of 5/9/14 eyes and you’re cozying up to the government of objectively the worst country, privacywise

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            They give you poorly disguised ads that you can’t unsubscribe from in the form of a “news letter”. These appear as emails in your inbox with special styling that sticks out. They’ve recently started pushing new features in the Calendar that you need to be the higher paying tier to use, but they still have special styling to make them stand out. If you try to use them, you get a huge popup saying you need to upgrade. They’ve been removing features from the lower tiers and demand you upgrade to keep using it.

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              Every time I open my inbox, I got a new notification about either upgrading to a paid tier, or the exact same thing but disguised as a feature announcement.

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                If you’re looking for a new home, Disroot has free email services with a one-time payment if you want a custom domain attached. I’m just giving them the money I used to give Tuta every month. I don’t want to sound like a shill, so I’ll keep it short: I believe in Disroot far more than I ever did Tuta because Tuta was a business and Disroot is a movement. Disroot isn’t in a position where a fat cat investor is gonna start squeezing them for a return. Their last finance report also looked pretty good.

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                  I’m tempted, but Disroot has two things that will probably keep me away, unfortunately.

                  1. Email is stored unencrypted on their servers
                  2. The site is associated with political activism

                  There are technical reasons for #1 being true (and ultimately, even if they encrypted the email, I would have to trust them anyway) but this opens extra venues for exploitation. Coupled with #2, the site may be targeted by activist groups who don’t like the politics associated with them, or participants on the service might be automatically associated with it. Personally, either of these issues on their own tends to be enough for me to avoid a service. I respect Disroot but it’s probably not for me.

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      Best? Hosting an encrypted email server in your own house. As a service, mailfence seems to be a decent alternative

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        Can you elaborate on what software or solution would allow someone to host an encrypted email server? Would outgoing messages be encrypted or just encrypted at rest? What about if you also had your family member on the same setup and you wrote to each other, would it be encrypted?

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      Perhaps riseup if youre an anarchist or posteo if youre willing to pay a low fee?

      I use posteo myself. Its alright and reliable. Would try Riseup (kinda got political) but idk anyone to ask for an invite code

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      Oof, using the Official brand account to post shit like this? 🤨

      Did the other 4 board members of his Non-Profit organization (that owns Proton AG btw) approve this, or did Andy Yen got too comfortable and see himself as a king?

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        Absolutely big off to post that shit from an official account. He’s not the only one working at Proton and this is not going to play well with proton users.

        I’m seriously thinking about looking at alternatives. He must’ve gotten too much money now and gone republican.

        Anti Commercial-AI license

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      interesting that it’s deleted now

      anyone got a screenshot?

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          Hilarious, talks about corporate Dems yet is supporting corporate Republicans. Elon Musk is arguably the face of big tech and so acting like Trump is going to ‘do something’ to big tech is also delusional. Big tech has already gotten out the checkbooks and kissed the ring down in Florida.

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            Thiel, Musk, Zuck, and Bezos among others.

            It’s beyond parody that you’d pretend Republicans aren’t owned by corporate and tech interests, I quite frankly don’t believe he believes it.

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          ugh gross they think trump, who has big tech ceos lining up at his door, or the republicans, who want to kill encryption and vpn accesses are going to tackle big tech? welp time to get a refund.

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    ugh, gross. i just signed up for a month to try and get away from google and the rest of the us companies bending the knee. how to trust proton that they won’t give up your data the second trump asks now? time to get a refund and put it toward infomaniak sigh

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    Speedrun any% to kiss that ring

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    I was wondering, is proton as trustworthy as everybody says? I generally dislike it because its closed source, but that makes sense considering they have to host servers. but this makes it seem… uncredible. any alternative to protonmail?

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      I generally dislike it because its closed source

      I mean, the user clients are open source (right? correct me if I’m wrong). So if you compile it yourself, it should be safe.

      So for the contents of email, drive, calandar, those things should be safe. They could secretly keep a log of metadata and IP addresses, tho. The VPN, yea that is basically just requiring trust

      Also, Proton AG is now controlled by a Non-Profit organization, Andy Yen is only one of the five board members.

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      bad news, Proton’s official reddit account doubled-down on it as a company position (edit: but it was also him too)

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    FFS. Unfortunately there really isn’t a good alternative to Proton right now (don’t @ me about Tuta until you’ve seen how much downtime they had recently).

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    Does anyone have info on the ‘two anti trust bills’ the official account is talking about?

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    They use examples of when they did pro-left actions in the apology and explanation , but they never once proclaimed with their official account support for the left, and that’s the difference.

    The apology and explanation fell way short of the mark. He tried to appease the facists and alienated Proton top clients.