Summary

Fox News’s attempt to find support for Donald Trump in Greenland backfired, as most residents expressed disinterest in his proposals.

While one Trump supporter was found, the majority of Greenlanders interviewed criticized Trump’s comments and expressed a preference for remaining under Danish rule.

Despite these setbacks, Trump continues to advocate for acquiring Greenland, citing economic security concerns.

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    and bear in mind that when I say fix, I mean fix, not take a few small token steps towards addressing it (maybe)-

    Your position amounts to saying “We cannot move left until we have moved much farther left”.

    not “fix the housing crisis”, not “fix the student debt crisis”-

    Biden and/or Harris pretty much tried to do everything that was politically possible on both of those things. If you were holding out because you thought it would be possible to immediately do MORE than what they tried/proposed, you were merely setting yourself up to be a lifetime loser in politics.

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      I voted for Kamala, I didn’t hold out. I’m trying to offer a tough and honest critique of how to move forward from this. The democrats have settled on a strategy of slowly shuffling right and being yesteryear Republicans on many fronts, and making mountains out of molehills when they do get the occasional small W. That’s reliably bitten them, as we saw in this last election; I think the exit data shows they flipped a total of 1% of Republicans. Meanwhile, Trump’s out there trying to buy Greenland, and the republicans went “okay, I guess we’re doing this”. It’s time to stop fretting about what the horoscopes say and start pushing on the gas as hard as we can.

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        The democrats have settled on a strategy of slowly shuffling right and being yesteryear Republicans on many fronts

        No. That was their strategy 20-30 years ago. They are actually trying to make progress now, but I agree they need to become much more aggressive in doing that.

        when they do get the occasional small W.

        You are forgetting that these “small wins” are HUGE WINS to somebody. I had ACA health insurance for several years. Dems did that. Would I have rather had medicare for all? Of course. But I would have had NO health insurance for YEARS without Dems creating the ACA. That was huge for me. And before the ACA people on the internet were always telling me there was no chance at all that health care would ever be reformed.

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          Let’s not forget that Obama rode into office on the huge promise of fixing healthcare and providing a public option. He got elected on swinging for the fences and big systemic change. To his credit, he did try pretty hard that first term. The second term was much more jaded, and Obama himself seemed to shift right on a number of things, chiefly LGBT rights. But I digress, what big promises have we seen since then? Where have the democrats swung for the fences? I can’t remember a single equally powerful promise from HRC16. Biden had some okay ones, like student loan forgiveness, but nothing that felt equally powerful, I think. Kamala promised to codify Roe V Wade, which is something, but that was couched with expanding fracking and fixing housing by offering first time home buyer credits.

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            Completely ignoring the make up of Congress during Obama’s second term seems kind of disingenuous…

            Now that I’m old enough to remember shit that happened decades ago, it is absolutely wild how easy it is to convince people, on a massive scale, to remember things differently than how they actually happened.

            It’s actually terrifying.

            It’s no coincidence that the precipitous rise in American fascism began at the exact time that “the greatest generation” died out… You know, the ones who actually remembered what it was like the last time.

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              I’m not talking about how Obama II was a lame duck presidency, I’m talking about how Obama himself seemed to shift right in many regards. He has reason to be jaded with the Republicans, sure, but he also seemed to have little patience for the asks of the left, too. I remember being pretty surprised when Obama was asked if he was going to legalize gay marriage or some other pro-lgbt policy and he just flat out said “no”.

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            and fixing housing by offering first time home buyer credits.

            And building low income housing.

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              I could go on for days about what we need to do for housing, but it’s one of those things where I went into it giddy about the Harris campaign and came out of it saying “oh… Well, that’s alright.” It certainly didn’t feel like anything incredible.

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      No one owes you a vote in this country. Push for mandatory voting, I’m with you there but no one owes you a vote, a win or a care honestly.

      I myself don’t see the bemusement by people who hold the same idea as you. If people didn’t vote that’s the fault of politics and politicians not the people regardless of the reason they didn’t vote.

      It’s guilting the consumer about pollution when the most pollution comes from the producer.