If Musk is ready to lie about his gaming achievements then can we really trust anything that comes out from his mouth.
I mean who cares if Musk is bad at POE2 but the fact that he goes to such lengths to lie about how good he is in a videogame tells a lot about his character and personality.
Have you heard his opinions on chess? He doesn’t play because it’s too easy.
That’s exactly what someone who sucks at it would say.
Wonder how he’d fare against trump at golf.
They would tie. Would take them each 18 strokes for 18 holes I’m sure.
They’d tie with a perfect score of -18, having somehow gotten a hole in one each course without even touching a club!
That’s not how golf works but I like where your head is at.
I know it isn’t, that was the joke, they scored an impossible score by somehow managing the get the ball in the hole with less than 0 swings.
He’s a narcissist. Of course he’s the best at this and everything else he does. Any evidence to the contrary is division by zero.
narcissism is a lack of empathy and conpassion. it is not thinking you are better than others.
An example of how a narcissist would think would be “I barely know anything about this subject and you know even less than I do so you must be a fucking idiot if you know less than my dumb ass”
Lack of empathy is a sign of narcissism sure, but so is a pathological need for praise and to feel superior to others.
Yes and that need stems from deep insecurity. Narcissists are insecure, but don’t show it. Their whole superiority act is just that, an act. Very convincing, because it’s what they -want- to be, and when people praise them it’s like a confirmation. They’re addicted to it. That’s why they lash out at anyone who sees through it. When you praise them, they’ll treat you like the best friend/lover they’ve ever had, but once you take away the praise… well they become a nightmare.
See it like this: nobody who is actually self-confident needs to get a constant stream of praise to be happy.
Praise yes but not the feeling of superiority to others as NPD comes from self-loathing.
Not sure why you’re getting downvoted. You’re right.
Because it’s not true. Narcissistic personality disorder may included self loathing but it is not a requirement.
This pattern is shown by the presence of ≥ 5 of the following:
An exaggerated, unfounded sense of their own importance and talents (grandiosity) Preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited achievements, influence, power, intelligence, beauty, or perfect love Belief that they are special and unique and should associate only with people of the highest caliber A need to be unconditionally admired A sense of entitlement Exploitation of others to achieve their own goals A lack of empathy Envy of others and a belief that others envy them Arrogance and haughtiness
Musk only needs 5. One could easily argue he has all of them.
That’s funny. I’ve only ever known 2 of them personally and they have all of it. The whole damn package. Yeah, that wasn’t fun.
Data show that, unlike normative, healthy self-esteem, which is associated with positive outcomes (5–7), narcissistic self-esteem is fragile, because it is highly contingent on achievement-related successes and feedback from the social environment (13–15). Narcissistic self-esteem is thus conceptualized as precariously elevated. When an individual with NPD is faced with an ego threat (e.g., real or imagined criticism, failure, or reduced social regard), unrealistically high self-expectations crumple into perceived inferiority (16, 17). Individuals with NPD are, therefore, hypersensitive to ego threats, and when threatened, they respond with efforts to reduce concomitant distress and upregulate self-esteem (17–19). These regulation strategies include some of NPD’s most recognizable and maladaptive behaviors. Classic “grandiose” responses include being aggressive or devaluing toward others (20, 21), fixating on grandiose fantasies (22), or engaging in self-serving bias (23). Classic “vulnerable” responses include alienating and isolating themselves (24) by avoiding situations that may threaten self-esteem (25), relentlessly criticizing themselves (26–28), or engaging in suicidal behaviors and fantasies (29, 30). This vacillation between overly inflated and deflated self-appraisals, alongside efforts to regulate this unstable sense of self through grandiosity, flawlessness, and/or avoidance, are described in both early psychoanalytic theories of narcissism (31), the contemporary Alternative DSM-5 Model for Personality Disorders (8), and the personality disorder section of the ICD-11 (32–34). It is important to note that research is continually adding nuance to scientific perspectives on self-esteem in NPD (35). Various frameworks differently emphasize shifts between distinct states of grandiosity (i.e., elevated self-esteem, arrogance, and entitlement) and vulnerability (i.e., shame, insecurity, and neuroticism). Scholars are working to clarify whether and how grandiosity may function to conceal ever-present vulnerability and whether fragile self-esteem is a driving force or an outcome of this process (17, 18, 26, 36).
So. I guess it’s not actually clear yet which one of us is right (whether it’s ever-present or not).
All I can say is that in my (limited) experience they have extreme reactions to any sort of criticism, they take almost everything personal, and this just doesn’t happen with people who are actually really self-confident. I know plenty of confident people and they can handle criticism just fine without throwing huge fucking temper tantrums. It came to a point where I was walking on eggshells trying to never say anything that could be interpreted as criticism, because their fragile ego couldn’t handle it and they’d turn it around on me. Like… trying to make themselves feel better by putting me down. Anyway, I’ll stop dragging my personal issues in here, and just say: perhaps some day we’ll have a definitive answer.
Edit: typo.
Happens often here.
It’s like what Trump would do if he were younger and cared about video games.
He made a post using command line lingo too, but anyone with even basic knowledge of those commands can tell you that both the syntax and the way he alludes to them are wrong.
It’s the equivalent of slinging a guitar in a picture to look cool but pressing the side with the strings against your belly.
Isn’t that suggesting he has the wokemind virus? Lol
yes
The guy can’t miss an opportunity to demonstrate his character and personality. This seems both extraneous and consistent - it’s more of the same data. I think we’ve got his number.
I bet if Musk played DBD he’d be the first one on the damn hook, every, fucking, time.
My first instinct was to poke fun but it’s actually important to keep breaking this overpaid influencer’s false image. He’s actively using it to push his harmful agenda.
I can‘t even tell for sure who of the two you’re talking aboout but I agree either way.
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Have you not noticed any of the many things Musk has said and done to suppress things like civil and worker’s rights? How he’s sucking Trump’s cock so he can dictate policy to the country? How he turned Twitter into an actual Nazi mouthpiece? That’s what he’s using his image to try to push.
Among other things:
- anti workers rights
- anti immigrant
- with exceptions for his own businesses
- anti safety nets
- pro fascist
- he’s began propping up Reform in UK and AfD in Germany
- pro corporate
Basically your bog-standard right-wing corporate fascist grab bag. He’s using his platforms (in all meaning of the word) to push that internationally.
Check the first comment on this turd nugget from last week: https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1877066245192794146
Zack is one of my favorite (if not THE favorite) streamer in the world.
Rather than taking the time to try and research Elon, it’s probably faster to just read the Wikipedia entries on the German Nazi party and apartheid South Africa. That should give you a pretty good idea of what he believes and is pushing.
FYI, Vice is now a far-right mouthpiece https://theintercept.com/2024/11/19/vice-news-right-wing-trumpism/
The craziest part of that article is
Vice co-founder Shane Smith stepped down as CEO in 2018, but has remained the company’s (…) The Canadian-born journalist’s focus seems to be trained on the southern border, with an editorial line closer to Trump campaign fearmongering than hard news reporting. (Smith is not to be confused with Vice co-founder Gavin McInnes, who left the media company and established the far-right militant group the Proud Boys).
So two of the three Vice media founders are now far right? I tried to find out more about Suroosh Alvi, the third founder, but didn’t see much. Though on his X (🤢) he posts and reports a bunch of pro Gaza stuff.
I shouldn’t be surprised cuz it looks like they all got rich off Vice, but still.
Their new podcast style conspiracy videos are just terrible, he comes across as a complete moron.
I feel like I remember them focusing on the sensation around news and not the actual news. Anything news worthy was included as a matter of context.
I felt like Vice was as if Beavis and Butthead were reporters, they went to the heart of a story that wasn’t getting much coverage and asked about people’s butts.
Shane has intense yuck vibes if you meet him IRL
Not a surprise, dude gives off those vibes in videos as well.
Some of us remember when Vice was a mean-spirited, local magazine that made fun of the way New Yorkers dressed.
Not really surprising that those people turned out to be scumbags.
Such a /technology/ post.
There is technology in it, like a computer game.
It’s got Elon, so it must be Technology. ;)
He invented technology
Actually it’s a dumb point because everyone and their mom already know he got boosted. Both of them should shut up and stop showing their face in public thank you very much.
I want the account sharer banned though.
Both of these people could fall off a cliff in a burning Tesla and nothing of value would be lost.
That’s how you get forest fires though.
There are plenty of cliffs in deserts :)
More than there already are?
I’d mourn the lithium.
Hey, don’t disregard the value of scrap metal!
The scrap metal was MADE in the event!
In an interesting plot twist, it would actually be a net positive for said Tesla brand in the long run, too.
Rich people work so hard to deserve their perverse wealth /s The only way they can still blow of steam is by pretending to grind online multiplayer games no actual working person has enough time for.
What kind of flex is this supposed to be?
I dont know path of exile in detail but being a top mmo player has always struck me of an archivement in dedication of time much more then inherent skill. The learned skill the pros have just comes natural with enough dedication.
My general reaction to something like it is not more then . Wow “you” must really enjoy this particular game. Is that reaction really worth cheating for?
Do we think he lacks the general life experience to be able to reflect on the common knowledge that a pro failed more times then the beginner has tried?
I known Elon is neurodivergent if not full on autistic but so am i and i cant make sense of this guys wims.
I think it comes down to what you said, but for the obscenely rich.
A pro has failed more than a beginner has tried. The obscenely rich have been told ‘yes’ more than the poor have had the opportunity to even ask questions.
You can learn this type of failed behavior just like a bad habit, and boy howdy is he the master of it.
The weird thing is like, this whole situation could have been avoided if he just played the game normally rather than pretending to be some god gamer at it.
It’s for the same reason he’s pretended to be a genius his entire career, he’s obsessed with his self image and being number one. He’s lied about being the best quake player in the world at some point. He’s like Billy Mitchell with more money.
He’s like Billy Mitchell with more money.
Careful there, or you’ll have two nut jobs suing you
Fragile masculinity combined with wanting to appear sufficiently tech savvy to tech bro investors. Tech bros want nerds because pretty much every dollar they’ve ever made was off the back of some innovation of someone they consider a nerd, so Elon wants to be the biggest nerd to tech bros so they will throw even more money at his dumb projects.
Imagine being the wealthiest person on the planet, and still being this insecure.
some random twitch streamer is worse than any person I’ve ever heard of. Wow what’d they do! It’s some video game leaderboard bullshit drama about Musk.
Lol fuckin quality journalism vice. Must be a really eventful news day.
He’s already demonstrated first hand he doesn’t know how to navigate the UI for someone who has invested time to be a top player. It’s obvious to anyone that’s spent more than a couple days in any game.
Honestly don’t care about Elon’s PoE 2 account. Nor do I care much about Asmongold as a person, I only have a single important question:
What’s with gaming streamers/youtubers trying to look like Jesus? GN Steve gets a pass, he’s Tech Jesus and everyone knows it. What’s up with Asmongold and that Penguinz guy though?
By “look like Jesus” do you mean they are white guys with long hair and facial hair?
I think you might underestimate how easy it is to grow your hair out and stop shaving and instantly become a Jesus look-alike. No effort needed.
Also, these two dudes look extremely different from each other and obviously they look nothing like Jesus who was a 5 and 1/2 ft tall brown skinned Semite.
I mean, I walked into the church hall for the daughter of my friends’ baptism and everyone paused to look at me, even the priest. I even overhead “it’s Jesus” from the mother who was 2 pews in front of me.
Seeing the bewilderment and expressions of everyone was just magical.
Maybe wearing a white toga and a thorn crown was a bit much for a church visit
By “look like Jesus” I do indeed mean the popular modern western depiction of Jesus, because as far as I know, there’s no conclusive proof of a historical Jesus existing, and if he did, he was obviously not a modern European-origin American man.
As for the second point - idk, it might just be because I can’t grow a decent full beard, but after the first centimeter or 2 of facial hair, I just get told to shave because it’s not funny anymore. I also can’t imagine letting my hair grow for several years to get it as long as those guys. I thought one of the perks of being a man is that you get to be comfortable instead of spending years growing out your hair and shit lol
I go from Three musketeer to wizard of the Court in about 1 month. Generally I just prefer not to cut my hair, but it will reach full length in about 1 year and then just stop growing any longer.
These guys seem like they also chose this hairstyle because it’s just less work and you spend less time being uncomfortable.
Constantly shaving all the time sucks.
It’s pretty well-established within the field of history that there was a Jewish mendicant preacher named Jesus of Nazareth who got baptised by John and nailed to a cross by order of Pilates. That’s just as well (or badly) attested as anything else about notable people in Galilee at the time.
It’s the rest that ranges from unattested to either allegorical or certainly made up.
Hmm, I was under the impression that there isn’t much written about him until long after his death - but maybe I did let that one skepticon video influence me too much lol
Well, define “long after”. The earliest surviving non-Christian source is Tacitus who is generally considered to be a reliable histographer and had access to records that are now lost, he wrote, in about 116 CE, in the context of Nero’s burning of Rome (64 CE):
Christus, from whom the name had its origin, suffered the extreme penalty during the reign of Tiberius at the hands of one of our procurators, Pontius Pilatus, and a most mischievous superstition, thus checked for the moment, again broke out not only in Judæa, the first source of the evil, but even in Rome, where all things hideous and shameful from every part of the world find their centre and become popular.
116 CE should be about 80 years after crucifixion, not that long. If the Romans had not done it they would have considered themselves slandered and mentioned it in their justifications as to why Christianity should be persecuted, it would have been part of the contemporary political consciousness.
I like to think this is the start of something important, Musks gaming account, realising that we can seriously sidetrack Trump by calling him the vice president and weird. The public is learning how to enact our own kind of political manipulation.
Calling Asmongold the “the worst person you know” is fucking pathetic. He gets consistently shit on by journalists for having the ability to think for himself.
He’s pretty clearly a shitty person that no one should model themselves after.
Wow that seems pretty harsh.
You try having something like 50,000 hours of recorded streams without saying something dumb.
It’s not what he says rather it is who he is and presents himself as.
No one should aspire to be a troll that is as uniquely unfuckable as him.
I don’t think aspiring to be another person is very admirable in any context.
So then what was the point of your initial comment? I said no one should model themselves after him. You replied that that was a harsh statement, but if you don’t think anyone should aspire to be like someone else what is the problem?
I don’t think he’s a shitty person. He doesn’t actively harm or exploit anyone just spergs out on the internet playing Vidya. If every Texan was an asmongold it would be a half decent state.
I think his larger message is his harm. I think his attitude is problematic as is his hygiene.
without saying something dumb.
except for the misogyny and bigotry
It’s pretty easy to not say racist and misogynistic shit if you’re not a racist and/or misogynist.
Like you realize that people aren’t out here struggling every day to not say the n word. That’s not normal.
He does have based takes on most things tho. IMO
You REALLY need remedial preliminary education if you believe that.
huh
It’s OK, let me help you out:
Remedial means: “to give a remedy,” or in this context, “to provide a corrective education in order to attain the education level of your contemporaries” (“Contemporaries” means a person living and working at the same time as you).
Preliminary means: “denoting an action or event preceding or done in preparation of something important.”
Hopefully that helps!
I didn’t say “huh” cuz I didn’t understand you. I said “huh” because I was confused about why you think I’m uneducated/unintelligent.
Fun fact: There are highly educated and intelligent people with different world views and values than you and other average Lemmy people.
If someone doesn’t think the same as you - that doesn’t necessarily mean they are dumb or uneducated.
Yeah sure whatever you say, keep following the herd. I stopped giving a fuck about your virtue signaling types months ago.
Go ahead and follow the script to call me a nazi next.
Why would you be a nazi? I suspect you are a cnfused child if you think Asmingold is an aspirational figure.
Asmongold is the kind of guy who is unfuckable despite having money. Why would you want to be that guy?
Do you habitual judge people entirely on their fuckability? I mean, I have little opinion of Asmongold except what I see other people saying about him on the internet, but that seems like a weirdly sexualized take on things.
When Im talking to an obvious teenaged boy it’s safer to talk in terms they understand. A 15 year old might get why Asmongold isunfuckable but they might not understand why adults would hold him in disdain regardless of what he does.
Playing by someone else’s rules means they dictate the conversation. You have significantly less power. If you want people to act like adults, like reasonable people, try treating them that way.
It may not work, but it’s far more likely to do so than constantly talking down to them.
Have you been paying attention to this conversation? Maybe go back and reread before replying to me. You might find yourself thinking differently when you see my comments and the replies that I got from the start
Ah yes because appearance equals value in this dogshit world of yours. Way to admit you dont like him because he is actually popular despite that fact.
Also a kid using lemmy? get real. Most of us here are 21+ at the least.
His personality and hygiene are what makes him unfuckable.
And based on your responses here, why shouldn’t I continue thinking you’re a boy?
I’ve only heard he streams the entirety other people’s work for a living, what are the journalists saying?
how does elon even have time to play video games if he’s the most busiest and hardcore guy of all time?
Isn’t it weird that he’s the top player in PoE2 AND Diablo IV?
Plus a highly involved, successful CEO for multiple companies! I believe any of that is true as much as I believe he’s a free speech absolutist.
Do you think he pays Chinese teenagers to run his companies
I wouldn’t be surprised given the decisions he has made at Tesla alone.
I would be
Chinese teenagers would be much more competent at running tech companies
