Tick tock was a bioweapon.
The good news is that the main contingent of people upset about TikTok getting banned have willingly rotted away their attention spans (ironically, through TikTok) to do anything meaningful about it. The moment they realize being mad takes effort they’ll find something else to do.
Instagram, facebook, twitter, youtube, and reddit: all well-known for improving the mental health and attention-span of their users. /s
Literally the only “argument” you people have.
“Wah, the other ones do it too!” yeah, no shit, and they should also be regulated. I don’t think anyone here believes otherwise. Maybe, just maybe, it makes sense to prioritize the one that’s under the control of a foreign adversary.
And even if you don’t prioritize it, this is the one that we currently have the opportunity to regulate, so why would we refuse that just because we’re not doing the same thing to the other ones RIGHT NOW? Once again allowing perfect to be the enemy of good.
Do you see now how that’s not a real argument?
It’s like if a student got caught cheating on a test, and complains that they shouldn’t get an F, because “everyone else was cheating too.” Were they cheating? Maybe. Is it relevant? Not at all.
Why on earth would the US government regulate its own propaganda and surveillance programs? Their goal is to control the narrative world-wide, and force-feed the world pro-US foreign policy positions.
Also, the US are the ones telling you that tiktok is doing the same thing that their companies are. You should take anything a serial liar says with an extreme grain of salt, and distrust it by default. There’s no evidence that Chinese companies are doing what the US companies are.
Bad take. We’re in the modern world of information warfare: expecting every citizen to be immune to psychological trickery from a nation spending tens of billions to research and test ways to trick them is unrealistic and unreasonable. There’s people with PhDs in human psychology spending their entire time and untold amounts of compute power trying to stoke the flames of division and push misinformation and you think we should allow it?
This is such peak western projection holy shit
But enough about the US intelligence-industrial complex.
The US government isn’t in charge of one of the largest social media platforms in the world. US corporations are absolutely doing this as well, but that’s an argument for more regulation not to grant China free reign
US corporations are absolutely doing this as well, but that’s an argument for more regulation not to grant China free reign
Exactly this. This is their only argument against it, and it’s trash. Yeah, no shit, we know they are all doing it. Yes, we all agree that they should be dealt with as well.
The US government isn’t in charge of one of the largest social media platforms in the world. US corporations are absolutely doing this as well, but that’s an argument for more regulation not to grant China free reign
US-run social media apps are pretty much now just arms of the US surveillance state, functioning both as pro-US propaganda machines, and tools to spy on the communications of the entire world.
For example, the most popular social media app in India for example, is facebook. The US controls the main method of news and communication for a country much larger than its own.
Yeah, and…? Does that mean we ignore the one under CCP control because… why? It’s not fair?
Also, I’m not questioning the data as it’s clearly about when they began collecting data, but that chart looks a little… sketchy. Like you pulled it from your Great Aunt’s Facebook feed in 2014. Where is the data from? That does not appear to be any kind of valid source I’m aware of in the corner. When was this made, and how much has changed since then?
Agreed that the chart looks hilariously fake, but it’s a real image from a 2013 leak by Edward Snowden on PRISM. I found that original image in this Guardian article: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data
The Wikipedia article includes more discussion and context on the leak.
Like you pulled it from your Great Aunt’s Facebook feed in 2014. Where is the data from? That does not appear to be any kind of valid source I’m aware of in the corner.
They’re slides of internal US prism program documents from the 2010 US global surveillance disclosures that Snowden and Assange exposed: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PRISM#The_slides
When was this made, and how much has changed since then?
There’s no reason to think the US government has stopped any of these programs. If anything, given the massive DoD budgets, they’ve increased.
Damn didn’t know the US Government owned Facebook.
He didn’t say the government owned Facebook. Even so, it doesn’t need to own it to control the flow of information.
The US intelligence & propaganda machines dwarf those of all other states, just as the US military dwarfs those of all other states. And they don’t only direct it at other countries, they direct it inward, too. “Russiagate” was a domestic psyop directed at its own people, to manufacture our consent to censorship. Hamilton 68: How former intelligence officials and Democratic operatives conspired to manufacture ‘Russiagate’
Poor use of this meme template. The last sentence is not even a question!
I find it funny when people get upset that a meme template gets used in a novel way. These aren’t religious texts that are immutable, memes evolve over time.
Thinking this way is how you get “and that’s everybody’s problem” kermit
I’d like tiktok to fully disappear but not for the reasons governments want it to. I just miss YouTube haikus and memes without music always playing.
By “censorship”, they meant not being able to scream the N-word at black people.
Nah. You can still do that on X (formally Twitter)
And very soon facebook as well…
You can already say other anti-black slurs on Facebook.
and very soon Facebook as well…
TikTok has literally nothing to do with informing tho… it’s literally the opposite.
All news agencies in my country have a tik tok account and regularly use it to publish exactly the same news as they do on their newspapers or on TV. I don’t see how watching that news on tik tok is any different that turning on the TV and watching it there.
It’s literally the main reason people found out there was a genocide happening in Gaza.
That’s simply not true, you just spend too much time on TikTok
I’m simply engaging with reality. The funny part that this is openly admitted, but here we have you pretending it’s not the case. https://www.commondreams.org/news/mitt-romney-tiktok
This doesn’t prove your point at all, there are plenty of other media outlets that were and still are reporting on Gaza. If you spent time outside of the brain rot app maybe you’d know this.
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Then you haven’t used it. The Reddit stream of 100% hate towards TikTok without understanding it is a very bad take. It provided a ton of momentum in recent US social movements.
Ya it’s literally the easiest way to get a quick video on something you wanna learn. Not to mention (unlike other platforms) you get a friendly face that teaches it to you
Right! I don’t get the hate
Because there’s no critical thought about who is delivering that information to you, where they got it from, what biases and/or agendas they may or may not have, etc…
If you are learning about the world through 15 second videos of a random internet stranger talking about a subject, then you are going to end up with a fucked up (and just objectively incorrect) worldview. But I guess it’s OK because they have a friendly face.
You comment as if me reading your 15 second comment isn’t the same. Who are you to judge if unknown viewers think critically? This is a cringe take carried over from reddit
on lemmy you are usually provided sources tho
You just need to train your algorithm, my tik tok always show a lot of interesting educational stuff. I can’t remember the last time I saw any kind of soft porn there, my Instagram on the other hand is always shoving big and hard gym booties on my face.
Not a fan of TikTok, but they did this because they weren’t towing the line on the master race’s genocide as an example to others who would dare defy the racial hierarchy of the West. That seems DEEPLY problematic on EVERY level.
I could be wrong, but I believe they TikTok ban stuff was in motion before Oct. 7 (assuming that’s what you’re referring to). Someone correct me if I’m wrong.
Not really. There are plenty of social media apps and services that aren’t toeing the line. TikTok is being targeted because of their relatioship with China.
Mitt Romney explicitly admitted that the ban was due to TikTok not toeing the line on Palestine.
yes, trustworthy mitt
Lol, you’re suggesting he was lying about that? Antony Blinken was right next to him nodding along, is he also in on this lie?
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This is actually a good point. Last time I said something good about China I was attacked on lemmy for it being censored. As if that doesn’t happen here
“Lemmy” isn’t one thing. Every community on every instance is different so you didn’t get censored on “Lemmy” you get moderated in a specific community. Lemmy itself (the software) is censorship proof meaning you are free to launch you own instance, as you have done, with your own communities and post there and no one would be able to censor you and it would federate to any linked instance to your subscribers.
There is no contradiction here, because the communists, with their customary candor, acknowledge the necessity of stifling speech they deem to be harmful. It is the liberals, those self-appointed guardians of unfettered discourse, who are engaging in hypocrisy. They wax lyrical about the sanctity of free expression, only to abandon their lofty principles the moment their narrative falters.
