every day it gets more incredible to me that people are so fucking addicted to fake validation and fake likes from fake friends that they still use fucking twitter
Yeah! I like my fake validation and fake likes from anonymous friends over here on lemmy. Fake friends are overrated.
the secret is i don’t think anyone on lemmy is my friend. i find everyone here frustrating and annoying! the system works!
Damn,… Ruffalo looks young in this picture… then I realize, he was and we all got fucking old. This was 13 years ago!!!
…hey. Stop that.
Respect the rules! We all pretend 2005 was 4 years ago and 2014 was last year.
Bullshit! 1995 was 4 years ago. 2004 was last year.
You say that like Twitter isn’t also full of self-important asshats
There’s a pretty big difference between drinking mild poisons at a Nazi bar and a local bar. Zoomed out, sure, drinking alcohol at all can be considered pretty dubious, but the difference between the two scenarios remains.
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That is literally how I described it, yes.
*cries in fake friend*
Exactly my thoughts
I learned a long time ago that for me, social media is an output. I drop it and leave it. I don’t fucking care who reads it, or if they liked it.
I was going to delete this, but I guessi already typed it
A guy from South Africa made his app anti-black? Shocking.
The white guy who is only rich because of black oppression in South Africa, in fact.
IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon. I really think people are under estimating the severity of the vision these people have for the world.
Can you quantify soon here? I agree with you that they don’t have good intentions, but I think that framing it as like, a planned genocide is not accurate. More realistically what can happen is more systemic injustices and consolidations of power to prevent anyone from resisting.
To start with, their plan for mass deportation probably already counts as a displacement genocide. There will be thousands of deaths from it leaving aside everything else wrong with it.
There are also approximately 3 million trans people in the US. Every single one of them is in danger as the fascists’ chosen scapegoat.
kill a whole bunch of people soon
If you don’t couch this a whole lot, it undermines the seriousness of what is actually about to happen.
Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.
Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.
Trans people, the group currently most targeted for elimination by the right, represent about 1% of the US population. Jewish people in pre-Nazi Germany also represented about 1% of the population.
When Republicans past eliminationist laws meant to persecute trans people, deny them from public life, and kill them by taking away their healthcare, they are committing crimes of the same order as what Germany did in the 1930s.
That is simple historical by-the-numbers truth.
The chilling thing for me is that Nazi Germany was able to accomplish this without the technology and mass surveillance we have today.
It will be a slow boil and they’ll arrest people one at a time for “terrorism” and such. I won’t be surprised to see extremist militias going after people as well.
They won’t even need to use terrorism. Right in Project 2025 is a plan to slowly classify any public existence or acknowledgement of LGBT identities as “pornographic.” And in turn classify showing “pornography” to children is pedophilia and worthy of being put on the sex offender registry. They want to make it so if say, a trans woman, goes out in public and a child sees her, then that is the equivalent of grooming an 8 year old child by showing them pornographic videos. Oh, and they also want to attach the death penalty to crimes of pedophilia.
I didn’t see how that will massively backfire on them at all.
You’re assuming the law will be applied consistently.
1% is 3.8 million people. They’ll likely be ostracized, forced into hiding, and we all know the effects of that.
We’re both describing terrible things, terrible things that are short of hunting people down and loading them into trains.
Your comparison does a disservice to everyone. Setting the bar at the damn holocaust gives our opponents an easy out. “They act like we’re”, “we’re just”, are the natural, easy responses.
Don’t give them easy outs. Things can be less terrible than the actual Holocaust and still be terrible.
They’re talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them. Do you really think you can do that without setting up massive camps that match or exceed the scale of anything the Nazis set up? And if you really want to move that many people around, you may end up having to use trains.
Oh, and worse, they have no plan on how to actually deport that many people. The Nazis originally planned to deport all the Jews as well. Yet they quickly found that there simply weren’t enough nations willing to accept all these deportees. Other countries aren’t obligated to accept your deportees.
So you now have millions of people in camps, costing a fortune to maintain, and no where to send these people. That always ends in slavery, death, or death by slavery. Whenever your plan starts with “round up tens of millions of people and put them in camps,” you can guarantee that a massive death toll is going to follow.
And I think your comment here is a hell of a lot more valuable than starting out with “IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon.”
You can’t just skip to the end of the worst case scenario without people blowing you off. I mostly agree with you; I just think that particular messaging is damaging.
I think starting off so dismissive until later in the thread makes it seem very much like you don’t mostly agree and is more damaging to the idea
Maybe I’m unusual here, but if I saw 200 corpses in a big pile, I would think that someone killed a whole bunch of people.
To your point, it’s funny how we frame things depending on the circumstances.
Growing up I always thought the Saint Valentine’s Day Massacre was some huge slaughter where hundreds of people died. Turns out it was seven people. Mobsters, actually, so it could be argued it was “gang violence”, but still. Seven people executed by a rival gang, and it’s a massacre.
At least 37 die, over 800 injured, and over 10000 were left homeless, but Tulsa ignored it for decades, then called it a,“race riot”.
Twenty children and six adults are murdered by a nutter and it’s still not a massacre, but at least it’s “tragic”, which is a step up from the average school shooting, which is normally called “Tuesday”.
Over 45,000 Afghan civilians died from 2001-2021, but that’s not a massacre, just collateral damage.
But that’s over twenty years, of course that’s not a massacre, plus they’re, you know, foreign. Now if 45,000 Americans died in one year, well, that would be different. Except they do, but because they lack insurance coverage. So, you know, that’s their fault for dying of preventable illnesses on account of being poor. That’s not a massacre, just good business.
But one CEO is murdered and it’s a tragedy again
Over 45,000 Afghan civilians died from 2001-2021, but that’s not a massacre, just collateral damage.
But that’s over twenty years, of course that’s not a massacre, plus they’re, you know, foreign. Now if 45,000 Americans died in one year, well, that would be different. Except they do, but because they lack insurance coverage. So, you know, that’s their fault for dying of preventable illnesses on account of being poor. That’s not a massacre, just good business.
And when Israel kills that many Palestinians in one year, college kids get arrested for protesting it while Congress jacks off while rubberstamping another $10 billion of arms sales to Bibi.
Is the holocaust really your measurement for the meaning of “killing a bunch of people?” I don’t think things have to get all that bad to be justified in saying “a bunch of people died.”
When you look into where contemporary right wing ideologies comes from, and what journalists are reporting on in online right wing spaces, a holocaust doesn’t seem out of the question. The Turner Diaries is worth looking into. Robert Evans is also a pretty informed journalist on the matter.
What are you guys talking about?
Stop downvoting and tel what they are talking about lol
People, please stop using twitter. Stop giving your attention and money to terrible people. Some people, like that white lady, are weak-minded and they will never learn.
This — why are people even still there? Get off it, full stop.
We’re all here commenting on it. It’s part of the outrage feedback loop.
If your question wasn’t rhetorical, addiction is one reason I can think of. Folks are tied up in a certain kind of Feed depending on the places they go online, and twitter/facebook are aggressively designed to make you stay, right? It might be as emotionally daunting as a smoker knowing they should quit. idk - I was lucky to not invest any time with those platforms, but I have kicked one addiction and failed to quit others, so I have some sympathy if that’s what’s holding people back.
Another reason is rubbernecking at the car crash. People are still on twitter because it’s where all the drama people/news are talking about IS.
Other than that? Nazis are there to be accellerationists, and internet debate club folks are there to perform civilized discourse (“so someone reading in the future can see that the nazi was wrong”).
If your question was rhetorical, my bad.
When I got banned from Instagram I went through actual withdrawal. I was very upset, I felt cut off from the world and digitally exiled. I still do. If I was desperate enough I could of made another account but after a decade+ with the same account - which got banned for standing up to Nazis and fascists - I gave up. Fuck Zuck. The same happened to me on Reddit too.
The technofascists hate leftists, they shadow ban them, they block their accounts, they ban at the isp level. They are propagandizing millions of people into right wing bullshit and worse.
I don’t have tik tok because I don’t trust China nor an algorithm as addictive as it but there’s a reason it’s being banned in the US: it doesn’t ban leftist content and in fact likely promotes it. Our oligarchs can’t allow that to happen. Class consciousness must be prevented at all costs or they lose their power.
I agree completely. Unfortunately, we live in a world where the racist rapist traitor felon just won the popular freaking vote in the country the site is based in.
So even though I deleted my account a long time ago and so did half the people here, the idea of not using xitter because it’s run by a nazi hasn’t even entered into most people’s minds to be considered in the first place.
Different people have different levels of tolerance to fecal matter. Some absolutely love the shit.
She’s a straight up Nazi
Next stop, a seat in Congress
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I have a feeling she takes black cock on the down low and doesn’t tell anyone
Yeah but she’s doing them a favor /s
That or she goons to it and is ashamed.
… isn’t that the wrong arm?
The guy on the right is mirrored, judging by the text on his shirt. I’m guessing she is, too.
Yeah, I didn’t expect them to understand that they’d have to mirror the image. That’s a bit too complex.
Bro really wants to steal Truth Social’s userbase for more money. He found out that the left is a lot harder to scam.
Aka products of blue State education systems
Aka “brainwashed.”
There’s gotta be a way to own this word in a positive way; like yeah honestly uni did help me clean house on a lot of dirty habits and prejudices in my brain, what’s the issue?
Nazis are sub human and shouldnt have rights
The only good nazi is a dead nazi
Or maybe a grammar nazi… But I’m not sure they count
Nah, they are necessary evil. (grammar ones)
“A” necessary evil. I know I was baited, and I don’t care.
I think just “necessary evil” will work there. “An necessary” would’ve been funny, though.
The weirdest thing here to me is that people call twitter an app. Not a site/community/whatever.
Zoomers and later generations mostly interact with Internet services through apps.
And boomers and relatively old generations.
I have older folks don’t really get what a website is, and family kids that don’t either.
Theres a narrow demographic that (as a whole) experienced the “old” internet outside of siloes and apps.
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Eh… Never thought about it, people use xitter more on phones now
The first word they did this with was cis. This will keep happening and the attacks will get worse until people act. Leave Twitter
I don’t think I’ve seen the old hard-R written out in quite some time. Let nobody say Musk and his indentured servant team have never accomplished anything. They just accomplish the bad things.
Lol that’s sort of true. I’m having a bit of a viseral reaction. I couldn’t quite put my finger on why, but I think you’re right. I just hadn’t seen it in so long.
That’s pretty fucked if you think about it.
Yeah, that’s kinda what led to my comment. I was looking at it thinking how overtly fucked it all was.
Why do they call everything an “app”?
The app is just the interface, the interface did nothing wrong, the entire platform is cooked.
Tech illiteracy
Also, Windows coined programs as apps, so pretty much any application may now be called app.
IOs application? -> App
VLC mediaplayer? -> App
Console videogame? -> App
Website? -> App
Calculator function on a smartwatch? -> App
The fully hardware-based light sensor that closes the blinds? -> App
My cat running to the bowl when I put new food in? -> Soon to be an App
Potato skins loaded with cheese and bacon? -> App
Trying to download … stupid slow bandwidth! D’oh!
You wouldn’t download a cat!
You don’t need to download a cat. They distribute themselves very well. It’s a feature. Try walking around with psspsspss coming out of your mouth and fancy snacks in your pockets and see what happens.
Your cat might see you as an app already!
There’s an App for that!
That’s a bit pedantic. App is used interchangeably to represent the whole platform.
I work as a SWE in a team with 15 year veterans at an App company that is a top 10 most downloaded on Android/iOS. We still use the word app this way in tech meetings.
Anti-black? Is that a substitute for “racist” to avoid censorship?
To be fair, it’s far more precise, being a subset of racism, especially given the context of some racist slurs being filtered while others aren’t, depending on the targeted race.
In today’s fucked up world, it wouldn’t surprise me if anti-white and anti-black slurs were filtered but anti-hispanic and anti-asian slurs weren’t, for instance, maybe to drive nationalism regardless of race. I appreciate the additional clarity.
I think there’s more straight up anti-black people than full on racist. The world hates us 😂
It’s possible that they are more vocally anti-black, but it has been my experience that hateful people are just full of hate. They go after the most convenient target, and have no problems with changing to another target if it is just as convenient.
You are lucky enough to not know enough racists because there are plenty who restrict all their hate to one category of human.
Don’t I wish. Frankly, I envy you your optimistic faith in humanity, but it seems a little naive to believe that someone who irrationally hates a group of people for some imaginary reason won’t just find another group and another imagined reason if the original group was to be removed.
That’s a weird sort of if considering that’s not really something that happens. I have no idea how you could even prove that, for example, someone who hates black people would start hating Asians even though they had no issue with Asians before if all the black people on the planet vanished.
It sounds like it isn’t me that hasn’t been around enough racists. Once you have lived long enough to see the demographics of places change, you will see the target of the resident racists change.
Feel free to back up your claim with more than “trust me, bro.”
Holy shit I love telling people my grandma was black when they say racist shit. I do not appear “black” in any way but it usually shuts people down.
Huh?
Which part of that did you not understand?
Don’t use state media.
Exactly the opposite lesson to take. We need public social media, not corporate social media. We need rights and guarantees, not profit taking and psyops.
I like having a bunch of nonprofits because if one turns bad, I can switch. Your idea will work better if the state becomes controlled by the public.
Don’t use state media controlled by a single megalomaniac man-child.
I would argue that no longer qualifies as state media.
It should be owned by the users and moderators, not the billionaires.
wow, so surprised. And after it being a complete tool for getting Trump elected too. Flabbergasted, I say.
I had to check if this wasn’t leaopardsatemyface.
Wish people would just stop using Twitter.
Shit like this makes me wonder what it would actually take to convince people to stop
