And apparently, also when you think that ‘They’ is a perfectly serviceable gender-neutral singular pronoun, but are willing to use other pronouns if asked to.

EDIT: Other removable offenses on Blahaj now include questioning mod/admin decisions and quoting the modlog as a reason why you’re leaving.

  • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    27·
    8 days ago

    gatekeeping sure is when you tell someone their gender isn’t real. especially under a post that specifically says “hey don’t tell people their gender isn’t real.”

    Their claimed gender is literally a dragon.

    Dragons aren’t real.

    Dragons.

    Aren’t.

    Real.

    sounds like you and the other user will find more fulfillment in other communities than one that is specifically created to be trans accepting. i’m sorry that this user who was exhibiting trollish behavior was your first experience with a person who uses neopronouns. i hope you can come to a point of greater understanding in the future.

    This isn’t my first experience with people using neopronouns, and I explicitly stated a willingness to use neopronouns.

    edit: removing my comments below because the discussion is no longer about respecting trans identities and is just a slapfight. fuck transphobes and get over yourselves on a single tiny user who you should have blocked months ago if you actually had a problem.

    You’re engaging in an online community that’s become so insular and self-absorbed that it’s become indistinguishable from parody. You’re literally defending dragonfucker as a gender, and furthermore saying that questioning any identity is inherently unacceptable.

    Get help.

    • Walk_blesseDEnglish
      21·
      8 days ago

      Literally all genders are made up, why are you getting so bent outta shape over a totally reasonable rule just because one person who stands to benefit from it is kinda annoying???

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        23·
        8 days ago

        Literally all genders are made up

        Gravity is just made up too. Doesn’t mean I’m going to take someone preaching intelligent falling seriously.

        why are you getting so bent outta shape over a totally reasonable rule just because one person who stands to benefit from it is kinda annoying???

        Look, if you want to have your fantasy roleplay where dragonfucker is a gender, that’s on you. Like I said in the message I was removed for, I’m no longer participating in Blahaj. You have fun with your faeries and dragons.

        • Walk_blesseDEnglish
          19·
          8 days ago

          You don’t get to complain about other people trolling when you are being this deliberately obtuse.

          Gravity is in the most literal sense a force of nature. It has had measurable effects since pretty much the dawn of time. Gender is a social construct. The only effects it has on the world around us is that which we as a society allow it to, and in the absence of any people who believe in such a concept it would cease to exist in any meaningful sense.

          Nobody is sincerely claiming that dragons, as in the mythological creatures, actually exist in material reality. By adopting dragonfucker/rider as a gender identity, drag is aligning with the concept of them in some kinda nebulous social sense I’m not gonna pretend to understand.

          Maybe drag’s trolling about it, but to be honest, I really couldn’t give a shit about the specifics of Dragon Rider’s identity one way or the other because I think drag’s an insufferable shit-stirrer. What really pisses me off here though is that you’ve actually made me care about this because in spending all day bitching about how drag’s a shit-stirring troll, you have engaged in precisely the behaviour that can make drag such a… drag.

          • spujb@lemmy.cafeEnglish
            14·
            8 days ago

            “Gravity is just made up too.”

            I apologize profusely for taking this argument seriously. The internet was a mistake; turn it off and leave it unplugged 😭

            • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
              9·
              8 days ago

              “Gravity is just made up too.”

              Yes, it’s made up, just like the entire concept of physics and species are as well. Science is a social construct. That doesn’t mean it has no relation to reality.

                • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                  5·
                  8 days ago

                  might as well take a blowtorch to the wires while we’re at it

                  Sorry that invalidating gender as ‘made-up’ with the implication that it has no relation to reality is such an acceptable concept to you.

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            11·
            8 days ago

            Gravity is in the most literal sense a force of nature. It has had measurable effects since pretty much the dawn of time.

            Gravity is just a made-up word applied to a made-up concept used by human beings to understand the universe around them in terms they find palatable.

            Like gender.

            Gender is a social construct. The only effects it has on the world around us is that which we as a society allow it to, and in the absence of any people who believe in such a concept it would cease to exist in any meaningful sense.

            Gender labels are social constructs, just like the concept of gravity is a social construct. Gender is an extremely complex phenomenon with biological roots. Trans folk don’t just get HRT for funsies.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
        19·
        8 days ago

        Wrong right off the bat. Go and read any of drag’s comments describing their gender and report back. Drag has said consistently said something quite different from what you falsely claim so I am curious as to who/what muddled your reading.

        Because drag uses first person neopronouns. Drag’s drag/dragself pronouns are person independent. They’re inflected and conjugated the same way in all grammatical persons. They represent drag’s identity as a dragon rider.

        Drag rides dragons and also “rides” dragons

        Drag, being straight, is attracted to the opposite gender; dragons. Everyone who tells you their sexuality is giving the same information drag just gave you, but with the details changed.

        And even if you were correct in your assertion, it still wouldn’t give an excuse to misgender. Besides they/them, one of the most common GNC expressions are fae pronouns, while fairies of course don’t exist either. Are you aware of this, and of the parallels with the identity you are disparaging?

        ‘Fae’ as a cutesy neopronoun I have no problem with. Anyone who identifies as literally one of the fae folk?

        Yes, that I do have a problem with.

        …which you, each time, follow with “your gender isn’t real, because [you are trolling/XYZ isn’t real].” Same invalidating behavior.

        “Your gender isn’t real, because what you’re claiming literally isn’t real nor possible for any human being to be.”

        Like, holy fucking shit, should I go and take back every time I criticized the conservative ‘joke’ denigrating trans folk of “I identify as an attack helicopter hurr” because that’s now perfectly valid?

          • PugJesus@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            10·
            8 days ago

            I suppose I’ve been reading it wrong, I would’ve sworn that somewhere it was said that they were a dragon and a dragon ‘rider’. In either case, the essential problem remains that dragons are not real, and they are asserting that dragons are real as part of their gender identity. Again…

            “Your gender isn’t real, because what you’re claiming literally isn’t real nor possible for any human being to be.”

            I ask again

            Like, holy fucking shit, should I go and take back every time I criticized the conservative ‘joke’ denigrating trans folk of “I identify as an attack helicopter hurr” because that’s now perfectly valid?