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    Referring to the Thompson killing, Frankel added, "You can be up in arms about the healthcare industry, but you can’t threaten or actually hurt members of the healthcare industry.

    Ironic to use that phrase 🤔

    The original usage of ‘up in arms’ was entirely literal. To be ‘in arms’ or ‘at arms’ was to be equipped with weapons and armour.

    Modern usage still defines it as preparing for a fight, Frankel.

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      I would love to see Thomas Jefferson in a live televised debate with this guy about what it means to be an American.

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    leaving law enforcement officials worried Mangione is being turned into a martyr.

    Did they just accidentally admit that they intend to kill him?

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      I think the title of martyr can be applied to a prisoner as well. Usually a prisoner that isn’t allowed to return after his time is served. So even if they don’t kill him, the longer he’s held, the more of a martyr he is.

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        Good point. I guess it’s really suffering or sacrificing for a cause that makes someone a martyr. Still though, being self aware that what you are doing is making someone into a martyr for the general public and then continuing to do it is grim as hell.

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    Referring to the Thompson killing, Frankel added, “You can be up in arms about the healthcare industry, but you can’t threaten or actually hurt members of the healthcare industry.”

    Right. They can hurt you but you can’t hurt them.

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      They can refuse to stop the preventable death of you, your family, your friends. That’s logically identical to causing those deaths especially as the money it would cost to prevent such deaths is money they have agreed to pay (except in almost every instance when it comes time to pay)

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      To me healthcare starts and ends with a doctors/nurses/therapists/people who are actually helping, the rest are just parasites trying to make money on their work.

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      “Referring to the killing of a member of the healthcare industry, this dipshit said that members of the healthcare industry couldn’t be hurt.”

      What do they have to be on to not count that evil cunt being worm food as being hurt? Motherfucker he ain’t just hurt he’s dead(and that brings me joy).

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    So like, 1% of his net worth, neat. It’s insane, to me, that people would throw so much of their hard-earned money at somebody who already has inherited more than enough.

    Save your money, folks; I don’t think the millionaire is going to have trouble getting a lawyer.

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      Luigi doesn’t have a $100m net worth. He had a privileged upbringing but has inherited basically nothing. His net worth appears to be closer to zero than mine.

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      I had heard his family has already publicly denounced him, is he just independently wealthy outside of his family?

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          None of that confirms the lies you are putting out here.

          So what if he came from a well known Italian family in an Italian area, he himself is clearly not rich.

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            Even if he was rich, he did what we’re all thinking most of the time about the ultra wealthy and apparently because he was thinking it too.

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            he himself is clearly not rich.

            He’s still managed to live a very rich and privileged life. Access to money doesn’t seem to have ever been a problem for him. He could afford to live comfortably in Honolulu and take weeks at a time for personal trips across Asia. Whether the money was his or his family’s doesn’t really change much.

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              Don’t mind me, just trying to summarize the timeline of your argument.

              1 He is a multi-millionaire (100K being 1% = 10mil)

              2 He is part of a millionaire family

              3 He is eligible to inherit huge amounts of money in the future; includes a honest side-note on how he may not get some big sum precisely because of what he did. Which i do appreciate but its weird to keep pursuing the argument.

              4 We are now at he lives comfortably, much more then most. Which says nothing about the means for legal defense in a case like this where the state is part of the problem and people sometimes directly funded by millionaires to make certain choices.

              Prediction for the next argument will be he eats avocado toast every day without even needing to pull on his bootstraps.

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                I’m not sure how you’ve misunderstood, I think my argument was pretty clear: The wealthy don’t need handouts.

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                  You have failed to show that he is wealthy. Yes we know he comes from a well off family. Yes we know he seems to have been living comfortably up until his arrest, but that doesn’t make him wealthy

                  So we’re not failing to see your argument, we are disagreeing with one of your assumptions

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                  That depends entirely on the mathematical ratio between the handout, the wealth level of the received and the potential costs and losses they may face.

                  I find myself reasonably well off some would consider me wealthy and i don’t have 100K sitting around, That would still be life changing money to me.

                  Someone who has a single million is insanely wealthy to me. That is a fuck you amount that no one should just have… But if you look at the price for lawyers in high profile homocide cases these can easily go up into multiples millions, suddenly that insane wealth is zero + debt, do they still not need handouts?

                  This doesn’t justify wealth it points to another breach on the wall. Legal defense is a system in favor for the ultra wealthy, the most money wins so usually state and corporations. Our guy is a shrimp.