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      Reminds me of the case way back in the day with someone who pirated music getting insane fines and how it was juxtaposed with the relatively small settlement an airline had to pay when its negligence actually killed people.

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      She hasn’t been sentenced and the maximum for rape is

      • For Aggravated sexual abuse with children: Life imprisonment without parole or any term not less than 30 years

      • For all other Federal Sexual Abuse cases: Life without parole or any other term

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        Unpopular opinion: When the minimum prison sentence for child abuse is higher than that for murder, every child abuser has a strong incentive to kill their victim, getting rid of the most dangerous witness with no further risk to themselves.

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            Yes, and getting charged 30+ years no matter what makes any additional punishment completely irrelevant.
            No criminal is ever deterred from crime by the thought that it could get worse than 30 years in prison.

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    I hope this case gets some attention too. This is some ginned up bullshit. We can’t let them stomp us into silence.

    I’m not celebrating a murder, this is some fucked up shit in many dimensions and I would prefer a different timeline.

    But remember we are not children who need to bow our heads and take our scolding.

    For-profit insurance companies are liable for the deaths they cause. Full stop.

    How’s that for moral clarity?

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      I’m not celebrating a murder

      You can though, no one will stop you.

      This specific murder It isn’t morally wrong. It isn’t hypocritical. It isn’t compromising some foundational pillar of being a human.

      Those who stand at the top of a capitistic, private healthcare industry made a choice to create, perpetuate, secure, and promote a system which resulted in deaths of millions for the benefit of shareholders and themselves.

      You don’t have to qualify your indifference or quiet your support. There is no moral quandary here.

      This has literally helped people already. Anthem undid an anesthesia policy reform which would have not covered it in procedures after a certain amount of minutes

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    She would have never been able to be charged before the patriot act. No weapons, no capacity to act on them, vague and unspecific. Its crazy how our freedoms have been eroded and how many folks seem to think thats just fine and dandy.

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    I saw someone else say this, but I hope they start rounding up the incels on Twitter saying “your body, my choice” as credible rape threats if what this woman said is going to be litigated with such fervor.

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              The rich aren’t losing money because of rape, so the cops don’t care to investigate it. It was a tongue in cheek joke implying cops only exist to protect the rich when their money is at risk. Another comment in this thread pointed out that women are regularly told “there’s nothing we can do” when they go to the police because an abusive boyfriend threatened to hurt them. They’re pointing out the special privilege cops give to the rich

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                Which is complete bullshit. Men are getting arrested daily on the basis of mere accusation of rape having happened. It’s illegal and it’s one of the most strongly enforced laws there is. This was the case before me-too and especially is the case since.

                Exhibit A: P. Diddy.

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                  Unfortunately in way too many cases judges tend to side with the rapist because they’re relatable… See rapist Brock Allen Turner. That happens A LOT. that’s just the one that was publicized.

                  I personally know two people this happened to. The person who raped them got a slap on the wrist. One victim was a man, the other a woman. Ask around and I’m sure there are innumerable similar stories just like healthcare denials.

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    Two wrongs don’t make a right. She could have said DDD without “you people are next.”

    Having said that, if we’re really judging people, and corporations are people, why isn’t the denial of health care seen as manslaughter? 70 people pass every day due to the lack of medical care in America. We have worse outcomes, shorter average life than other civilized countries.

    When is a corporation sued for murder & sent to jail? I know it sounds crazy, but that’s the point. These systems aren’t making sense. They lack humanity. This is a bad, morally bankrupt system. Older Americans loves their Medicare: that’s socialism.

    I’m so sick of this shit.

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        Hurt people hurt people. I don’t know how to fix things. But if we go around destroying one another, what will be left?

        I think the system is immoral. It should be abolished. An absurd takeaway from that would be “health insurance workers should be jailed.”

        I find it challenging to say our humanity is through being inhuman to one another. Wouldn’t our humanity need to come from humane action?

        I’m as upset as everyone else about these machinations. Everyone is a child of someone. If we don’t remember that, all is lost.

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          Front line worker: “I have no moral culpability, I’m just doing what my manager tells me to.”

          Manager: “I have no moral culpability, I just do what the executives tell me to.”

          Executives: “I have no moral culpability, I just maximize shareholder value.”

          Shareholders: “All I did was buy an index fund in my 401k. Why you trying to pin this on me?”

          186 people murdered by the health insurance companies every day, yet somehow not a single human being involved has any moral culpability.

          This is why Luigi did nothing wrong. If there is one person who has moral culpability, it’s the CEO. They justify their obscene salaries by taking credit for a company’s performance. They can accept the moral culpability as well.

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            It didn’t fly at Nuremberg, yet it flies in capitalistic societies who demanded retribution at Nuremberg. Go figure.

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          We are limited by our material conditions.

          It sure would be nice if all hurt people could be safely rehabilitated and reeducated so they stop hurting people. That’s not feasible at the moment, though.

          The next best thing is just making sure they can never hurt anyone ever again, until we can build that society where no one ever gets hurt ever again.

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    Meanwhile customer service agents have been hearing much worse than this for decades, actual direct threats not vague comments, and no one ever gave a shit before.

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    This reminds me of Minority Report. Arrested by the pre-crime unit.

    Guilty without the crime actually being committed.

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    We should erect a giant bronze statue of Luigi. Put it in a road right near UHC’s headquarters in Minnesota. Make them all drive past it each and every day on the way to work.

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    She absolutely does not deserve that. Isn’t America the home of free speech? I guess not for the plebs!

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      I don’t think that’s right. She’s been released on bond to house arrest; the charges still stand.