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    Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.

    “…and that’s a good thing, so we’ll see to it that it remains that way. Divide and conquer.”

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    "…

    We are quoting anonymously those who did respond, to allow them the freedom to give us their most candid answers. These have been edited for length and clarity. Some have previously been reported by Fortune.

    **Personal responses to the killing **

    — “The disconnect between public perception and personal humanity has been striking, with some commentary bordering on dehumanizing. This highlights the critical need to humanize leadership and address the pressures faced in high-visibility roles.”

    — “My challenge is keeping employees engaged. How do you maintain a sense of purpose if you think your customers hate you?”

    — “I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

    — “If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.”

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    Wow. ‘demonization’, ‘need to humanize leadership’… Are these human people that were interviewed? Did these human persons speak anyone outside their immediate circle in the last three decades? I can hardly believe that, this is so out of touch that these folk may have never been touched by anything in their lives. I wasn’t prepared for this speedrun worldrecord to definitively prove total lack of empathy and understanding.

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      Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about [that the CEOs created for them to distract them].

      In this current discussion, people are trying to open each others eyes about that silent part.

      Also: Most people don’t hate CEOs. But we do think CEOs have no right to be making more than a thousand times what an honest working person should make, actually sacrificing lives for their profit. And when that kind of stealing and mass murder is sanctioned by the law, then what are the options?

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    Bill George, a former Medtronic CEO and executive fellow at Harvard Business School. “People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero,” he told Fortune.

    Which “people”? Who are “they” in this context?

    Actually most of those quotes read as completely disconnected from normal people’s reality…

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    “I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

    Plot twist: the virus was actually the billionaires

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    If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about

    I hope this guy gets it next. How fucking out of touch can you be that you dismiss this as “a mentally ill person doing mentally ill things”? What a fucking loser!

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      It’s insulting toward, what I believe to be, a plurality of the population. Luigi was a gift of a wake-up call. They’d do well to listen. Though, only government could really remedy the situation, and that’s not likely to happen. So we lurch forward toward instability. The powers at be seem more intent on transfixing the masses with fictions, distractions, and eventually: war.

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      I love the last line. They do indeed, like how to pay for chemotherapy treatment after their claim got denied.

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    This was at the end of the article Forbes presented me with:

    Do you have what it takes to make it to the C-suite? Learn how Fortune 500 CEOs overcame surprising obstacles on the road to the corner office…

    I don’t want to make it to the C-suite. That sounds awful. I want to help specific people solve problems they have helping other people.

    Do other people think like this? Like they want a corner office and a big car? Am I that fucking abnormal that this sounds like a death sentence to me?

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      “suprising obstacles” lol as soon as it gets hard these fuckers just fuck off to a new ceo position at a different company.

      And the only thing hard about being ceo is making decisions that suck for your own employees like cutting back homeoffice or fire/rehire and not have a bad conscience. But since these fuckers dont have any moral or loyalality anyways it isnt hard for them at all.

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      They’re calvinists believing: the greater the wealth, the greater the morality. Taking it to its extremes is the point as is the cruel structural violence.

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    “Well, corporate America is made up of hardworking Americans who do their best to reward the investors, and many times those investors are pension funds.”

    Ah hahaha. The CEO who got $h!tpwn3d was investigated for insider trading. He fucked the shareholders right in the nose.

    But even if he hadn’t, the investors are mostly the super rich. Giving them more money is in no way respectable or decent, knowing that the money is coming from the rest of us.

    But even if shareholder supremacy were admirable, we still don’t have it. CEOs who receive company stocks routinely inflate the value so they can sell them. It’s 100% legal, and I didn’t see any of the anonymous folk speaking out against the practice.

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    I’m happy to interpret. I’ve lived in-between long enough to know, you really can be that dumb a shit. Some folks really don’t have a clue. Bless their stupid hearts. Or damn them to hell, much nicer than the rest of us meant.

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    Just wanted to comment on these two.

    “I have to wonder if the demonization of corporate America and the wealthy over the last four years planted a mind virus in the assassin’s mind.”

    Fuck you! You have the mind virus. A virus which leads you to believe that the rest of us should suffer because you’re better. Eat shit anonymous CEO.

    “If you walk by the place where it happened, it’s business as usual, which gives me some perspective. This was a random killing by a mentally ill person. Let’s not turn a tragic incident into a trend. Most people don’t hate CEOs. They don’t care about CEOs. They have bigger issues to care about.”

    Then light some candles and put out some flowers you fucking cowardly parasite. Hold a vigil, gather your CEO buddies and sing Kumbaya. Be sure and post the date online so all of the healthcare CEOs know when to be there.

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    “Our industry is built around devaluing human life for profit. Why aren’t these people valuing our lives?”

    It’s like a sketch comedy show. They can’t be this dumb.

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      It is a comedy routine, and they aren’t dumb, but blind. They see most humans as worthless animals. They could not give a fuck what happens to you, because your existence is irrelevant to their lives.

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    The biggest fear is that the hatred expressed in social media posts about Thompson—and glorification of 26-year-old shooting suspect Luigi Mangione—will lead to copycat attacks, says Bill George, a former Medtronic CEO and executive fellow at Harvard Business School. “People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero,” he told Fortune.

    Fortune reached out to dozens of CEOs this week to get a sense of how they’re reacting to this moment. The majority declined to comment. We are quoting anonymously those who did respond, to allow them the freedom to give us their most candid answers. These have been edited for length and clarity. Some have previously been reported by Fortune.

    — “The disconnect between public perception and personal humanity has been striking, with some commentary bordering on dehumanizing. This highlights the critical need to humanize leadership and address the pressures faced in high-visibility roles.”

    — “When I was growing up, CEOs didn’t make millions more than everyone else in the company. I think we have to reflect on why there’s so much anger and do something about it.”

    — “I think we’re living through very seriously dangerous times where we’re normalizing antisocial behavior and normalizing violence on both extremes—on the far right, and on the far left. We basically moved, over the last 10 to 12 years, to a world that I don’t recognize. It’s very scary … I do understand that there’s enormous amounts of injustice and that we need to bring everybody along, and there’s a lot of things that we do, but I don’t think revolution is the answer to solving problems.” (a former CEO)

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      The biggest fear is that the hatred expressed in social media posts about Thompson—and glorification of 26-year-old shooting suspect Luigi Mangione—will lead to copycat attacks

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      People are in disbelief that they would be making this kid into a hero

      Last time I checked, he was a full grown 26 year old man who made his own decisions, not a “kid.”

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        Yeah, I mean the quotes I pulled were the most self-aware wolves nonsense in the article, but the rest were basically either “we need more security” or “oh no the poors are onto us”.

        I’ve never met a CEO or member of the ultra-wealthy that wasn’t either a sociopath, narcissist, or completely detached from reality. I’ve only met about a dozen of those kinds of folks but they all had that same vibe.

        Are you surprised?

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          To get ultra wealthy, you have to go over corpses and be radical and very detached from reality AND your own humanity and humility. Because if you’re not, you’ll stop yourself and give back eventually.

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            It’s more nuanced than that. At least from the small section of that population I’ve interacted with it seems like there is very little malice in their actions. They don’t care and/or don’t understand the impact of their choices.

            I had the misfortune of having to sit through a couple meetings with the First Buddy (when a company he owned contracted one I worked for) and he is the only exception I’ve encountered. He struck me as actively hostile as if he viewed everyone around him who wasn’t agreeing with him as threats to be immediately and definitively dealt with.

            I’d suggest that the dragons of the world come in many colors and alignments.

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      I don’t think revolution is the answer to solving problems

      It’s easy to say that when you’re not living out of a shelter while working full-time.

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        It’s also easy to say that when you’re the living embodiment of the luxury and excess of the establishment/status quo.

        Like… dude…of course you don’t want to see revolution… every single fucking element of the system tilts not only in your favor but also in favor of perpetuating and furthering your absolute stranglehold on wealth, power, security, etc.

        The more interesting answer would be to the question: if, as a society, we became so united in our acceptance of this that it literally became commonplace for CEOs to get whacked and then for juries to nullify the charges and for the killer to walk free…and it was happening dozens of times every year, or month

        …would you support a revolution to change the status quo that was literally killing people like you with zero repercussions?

        If not, you’re an absolute idiot, or you’re actually on our side in this.

        If yes, then you know damn well what’s going on and, shocker, you’re playing dumb for a cheap attempt at sympathy.

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    This is how disconnected they are from the rest of us.

    Truly living in their ivory towers.

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    Most people don’t hate CEOs.

    Uhhh, that actually might not be true.

    If you were to do a poll in the US I think you can crack 51%, especially if you phrase it by mentioning that they have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit regardless of morality.

    Edit: just had a thought. Given how much more money they make than the average worker, and that the average worker puts their health at risk by sitting at a desk so much, this might actually make sense in terms of risk/reward structure.

    If the ultra wealthy make more than 1000 than me, shouldn’t they take 1000 times more risk of dying (I’m not supporting violence).

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      especially if you phrase it by mentioning that they have a fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit regardless of morality.

      Also regardless of mortality.

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      I don’t hate somebody just because they’re a CEO.

      I hate all rich people though that aren’t using their wealth to improve the lives of others as much as possible.

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        I mean, the likes of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos could end world hunger with a snap of their bony fingers, and they’re not doing it, despite the fact that they would still be wealthy beyond comprehension if they did.

        We’re asking them to do the bare minimum and utilize their wealth in a responsible manner, and they’re not even doing that much.

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          the likes of Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos could end world hunger with a snap of their bony fingers, and they’re not doing it, despite the fact that they would still be wealthy beyond comprehension if they did.

          I’m reminded of this line Citizen Kane:

          You’re right, I did lose a million dollars last year. I expect to lose a million dollars this year. I expect to lose a million dollars next year. You know, Mr. Thatcher, at the rate of a million dollars a year, I’ll have to close this place in… sixty years”.

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        Most, if not all, CEOs are rich though and I’m sure most people follow your sentiments too. It’s just that CEOs are currently the flavour of the month.

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      I would think that the title of CEO might not be appropriate to every organization either. I know a rather big org where the CEO is basically someone who begs for investors, and the CAO does what a CEO usually does. There are orgs where that’s the CFO, or the COO. Regardless of the title, it’s all executives we’re angry about because of the incredible income disparities versus actual responsibilities.

      The executives I’ve met are essentially hype men or thumbs up thumbs down types. All of them were finance types or management types. To me, if your only qualification is many years of managing with barely any experience in the actual product/service your org provides, then that’s a problem.

      Hospitals run by management types? Engineering services run by accountants? It’s all middlemen extracting piece of the pie from the people actually doing the work.

      As a society we need to purge the system of middlemen period. The internet made middlemen obsolete, yet they are still exploiting labor in ridiculous ways.