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    Honestly after their absolute shit show with cyberpunk I’m more excited to sit back and watch them fuck it up again than for the game. They’ve lost my respect and their credibility as developers. I will pirate anything from them

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      They’ve given Cyberpunk 4 years of support for free since the initial launch, including a full overhaul of the game. I get the state of the launch was dogshit, and you can bet your ass I’m not pre-ordering, but still holding onto this grudge is just petty. How much more sorry do you need them to be?

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        I paid dlc isn’t free support.

        I don’t need them to be sorry. They had years to make the game and released garbage. I’m sick of that happening in the gaming industry and I don’t support companies that do it.

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          Well good news, because you don’t need to pay a dime to get updated to version 2.2 and receive all the free updates. Phantom Liberty is a cool story, but has zero impact on gameplay.

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      They fixed CP2077 and as a matter of fact the game is pretty good, plus they are a European company so we should support them.

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        I haven’t played the game since launch so maybe I outta give it another try but I still lost respect for them. Releasing an unfinished product shouldn’t be praised even if they did fix it. Should’ve been delayed in the first place.

        Why does them being European mean we should support them tho?

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        Yeah, they did. I wasn’t a fan of every part of Cyberpunk 2077, but I have to hand it to them: the gameplay was pretty solid compared to the mess I read about at launch. They even made the player controls responsive and reasonably nice to use. That alone was a huge improvement over The Witcher 3.

        (Geralt, I’ll never forgive you for all the times you stepped forward into danger when I pressed back to avoid it, or decided to fiddle about with a candle when there was something more important for your hands to do, or moved like a lumbering sloth instead of… well… a witcher.)

        I’m optimistic about this one.

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      The devs are amongst the best in the business, blame those responsible, the suits who demand unfinished products to be released. Nintendo with their older mentality of shipping phyisical media does not have the luxury to ship an unfinished product and more studios need to take a page from their book.

      A rushed product is forever stained by its bad launch, a delayed product is eventually good. People have been waiting for star citizen for over a decade, we can be patient.

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        Nintendo is a shit company that hates its fans. Definitely not who I would use as a good example. And star citizen is a scam, not a game.

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    Super hyped, I’ve wanted a sequel with Ciri since finishing 3.

    Please don’t Cyberpunk this up, CDPR…

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      They will cyberpunk this, because they also witchered Cyberpunk. As in “delivered less than promised and then mostly fixed it with patches”.

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        And I’m quick to forget that Witcher 3 had some nasty bugs at launch, too. I was stuck with at that damn giant in the ice cave for like a month before they fixed it.

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          I love 2077 but CDPR keeps on ruining my modded excellence with worthless patches. I wish they’d just give up and leave it to the many amazing modders to add content and fixes. 🤷‍♂️

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          As with The Witcher 3, which is now regarded as one of the best games of all time.

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            Witcher 3 came out in May of 2015 and set the record for goty awards at the time. I don’t think it took that long to patch it up.

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              I distinctly remember it taking at least until the first expansion for it to be considered one of the greats. GOTY Awards have never been a true tell for quality of a game in my opinion.

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                I think it took a month for it to be polished enough. I remember this because it was when cdpr spun its upcoming patches into a great pr move by calling them “free dlc”. I think it was like 11-12 weeks of continuous “dlc” and Reddit was eating that up and dunking on other devs while praising the game to be the best game of all time. I legitimately remember post on Reddit showing some glitches in the game and comments saying something like “the game is glitchy, but at least it’s just funny glitches and nothing game breaking”. Also, first expansion came out 5 months after the release, so it still tracks that the game was patched up somewhat quick.

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    Is it just me or is her face a bit weird? Like too much jaw?

    I’d love to play the game as Ciri though, hope they make up a good story, it felt the Wild Hunt was her story, IDK what can top that.

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      It looks like they created a monster trying to fit a bunch of features in a face. It’s on all thumbnails, same as clickbait videos. It’s a marketing stunt.

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      Her face looks longer to me. I assume they’re trying to make her look more like a real person.

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        You’re the one taking it to gooner/sexist territory, us fans of the series know the characters and when the overall face-shape changes but keeps defining features like the scar on her cheek, it’s a little unexpected and strange at first.

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        I was not commenting on her attractiveness, just that the defining character features seem to be different. She doesn’t look “older” or less attractive to me from Wild Hunt, just a different person.

        It’s not as bad as when they dropped the voice actor for Sam Fisher in Splinter Cell though.

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      Reminds me of xiv. It always looks great ingame but half the time their cgi trailers mess up peoples face anatomy

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    I was hoping for Eskel or Letho to be honest. Ciri is a safe choice but a bit on the boring side. Eskel would have been a lot more multi-layered protagonist and dialogues would have been funnier.

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      I was praying for Letho even though we all knew it was going to be Ciri (for better or worse, we’ll see).

      Leaning into the moral grey of the Witcher world with Letho would have been awesome, he says (in one of the endings to his story) he’ll head out east over the mountains so we could have gotten some all-new environments and it would have been 100% CDPR IP so they could have done whatever they wanted without trampling over lore too much. Plus Letho is just an amazing character with huge protagonist energy. Oh well.

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    Here goes the cycle anew. Thank you CD project red and all the consoomers happily enabling then.

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        So did I, but I mean, given the current game development climate, Ciri was an extremely predictable pick.

        Not only is Ciri a woman, which modern games seem to be making super majority of main protagonists these days, but she also has market familiarity. Her character is recognizable and therefore has a builtin audience, where a new character does not.

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            I think that wanting equality over men/women % of MC is not something you would want to focus on I would rather have a quality story and universe whatever of the gender of the MC.

            ( I will clarify my point , I am an human therefore I am for gender equality obviously but I don’t think that this metric is the most interesting )

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              I mean, I agree. But, based on that argument, it’s totally fine if 100% of pre-created MCs are women then, since it’s only the story and universe that are important (and I would be 100% a-ok with that happening).

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              I completely agree that the quality of the story is kinda the whole point, but I am tired of seeing comments like the one RightHand made; complaining that she is a woman just because she is a woman.

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          Besides, they’ve already established some of her signature abilities and had people play as her in some of the previous game, kicking the familiarity up an extra notch.

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            I really hope they don’t stick with Ciri gameplay from TW3, I never liked when I was forced to play as Ciri, her abilities was less fun than Geralt signs.

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              Judging by the video, she’ll be behaving more like a witcher, with the two swords, the signs, and the potion quaffing. If they hold to that and also let her keep her “short teleport” move from TW3, I’m looking forward to it 🙂

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                If they changed the double dodge = roll to double dodge = short teleport, but not as crazy as in TW3 that would be cool, they could also make the whole gameplay more agile than TW3, seems like a good fit for Ciri.

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            Yep. Ciri isnt the worst choice in the world, I just was hoping I could have played as my own character instead. It will be interesting to see what they do with the story.

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              Yeah, I’d have preferred making my own character too but, failing that, a great character that’s already established in the series and has been a lot of fun playing as so far ain’t bad either!

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        WITCHER 3 SPOILER BELOW

        Spoiler

        How so? One of the endings literally has geralt gift a witcher sword to Ciri. The only thing I’m confused about is how she now seems to have the witcher mutations

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          Witcher books spoiler

          One of the early Witcher books mentioned that Ciri was given some witcher drugs while she was training at Kaer Morhen, but didn’t undergo the trial of the grasses at Triss’ request.

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            Continuation of the book spoilers

            Wacky books tbh. I don’t remember thinking it was for her to undergo trail they gave it to her, but mostly because that’s all they really knew to do

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        It makes perfect sense with two of the three endings, and could even work with the third depending on how much CDPR wants to explain the cosmology behind the white frost.

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            Is it really that hard to imagine she eventually undertook the Trial? Yeah Kaer Morhen lost the ability to administer the Trial, but there’s like 10 different Witcher “schools.” Maybe we’ll see Ciri working with the School of the Crane or w/e.

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              As far as we know it has never been done on a woman or an adult. Also, she already has super powers. Why risk a procedure that only 3 in 10 young boys used to survive?

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                This is just wrong, School of the Cat managed to successfully get to a point where 1/10 women survived. School of Crane is the later iteration of the School of Cat, which is why I mentioned them specifically. It’s reasonable to assume they kept iterating on the original formula for the trial, so maybe they’ve gotten to a survival rate of 3/10 for women as well by the time of the game?

                As for why, it’s because Ciri wants to be a proper Witcher like Geralt. She was raised in Kaer Morhen, one of the ending of Witcher 3 is Geralt handing her a Witcher sword. You really can’t think why she would take the Trial, even knowing the risk?

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                  Ciri can’t be a proper Witcher. She can’t do Signs because she is a Source, as Triss discovered. That was at least half the reason her Witcher training was cut short and Triss took over her training before they sent her to Yennifer. The other half being the herbs and mushrooms they were giving her were interfering with her development. She never got the Witcher mutagens at all. Ciri’s abilities are completely different from those of a Witcher due to her Elder blood.

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          It’s almost definitely a break with the series in that you likely won’t be able to import your save file, which always was a core feature of the series. There are also other lore details that don’t add up here, which have already been explained. There could’ve been many ways to progress the story but I don’t see how that is possible here. It’s most likely a soft reboot.

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            It could work the same way as the three origin stories in CP77: each ending from The Witcher 3 leading to a separate intro story with a time skip before the main game begins.

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              I guess that could be possible though I doubt it. The 3 origin stories in Cyberpunk were extremely shallow and didn’t add anything to the story. I don’t see why they would go for it again when it didn’t work out last time.

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            Some games do allow you to import saves from older games that have swapped the MC. They just take the choices you made in the story arc and use that to create conditions for the world you’re now in. But it’s a rare occasion from what I know.