This was in Lemmy world politics.

  • Draconic NEO@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    101·
    4 months ago

    Power tripping bastard for sure, banning someone for misspelling words? If anything that makes him look like a troll, not the OP.

    • insomniac_lemon@lemmy.cafeEnglish
      27·
      4 months ago

      I swear I’ve seen this same situation some time ago including with the exact misspelling. Could be a coincidence, though.

      EDIT: searching misspelling banned gives a comment by OP from 23 days ago (but the post is gone). I’m assuming what I remember seeing was probably this post before it was deleted and reposted.

  • AresUII@lemmy.world
    71·
    4 months ago

    Because it’s clearly normal for your typography and patience to improve when you’re pissed off

  • spujb@lemmy.cafeEnglish
    69·
    4 months ago

    finally a space to diss on jordanlund bless 😭

    i was banned by this mod for politely noting how certain comments lead to escalation of inappropriate behavior. i noted how by bantering with infringing accounts after comment removal, !world@lemmy.world mods actually increased the work they needed to do to remove abusive content and amplified toxic voices as a whole. i used no unkind language and really at the time i genuinely hoped for improvement to the quality of the community.

    their response?

    • permabanned
    • for “mod abuse”
    • one month after i made the post in question

    don’t use !world@lemmy.world. their entire mod team is dedicated to just kind of fucking around in a sandbox with thousands of users, not to creating a space for genuine constructive world news engagement. preferably also just stop using lemmy.world when possible.

  • Turbonics@lemmy.sdf.org
    43·
    4 months ago

    Lemmy.World mods are extremely Zionist and frequently ban users for saying anything remotely pro Palestinian or making a claim about Israel without evidence.

    Saying 20.000 killed Palestinians were Hamas without evidence to justify the genocide however, is totally fine.

    A very open Zionist “gedeliyah” got promoted to mod on their news community.

  • lath@lemmy.world
    34·
    4 months ago

    I feel the separation between staff and user has already been entrenched.

    Looking at modlogs, at times the given reasons show to me at least that they, the mods, have grown tired and are now settling on getting rid of potential trouble rather than fixing it.

    Experienced can also mean jaded and in that state of mind you no longer care about circumstances, you just want to get shit done so you’ll be rid of another stress you don’t want to deal with.

    Mods also need a timeout. The volunteer excuse can only work for so long. A way has to be found to prevent them from feeling like they’re in a deadend job where they’re only greeted with hostility. We need a mod relaxation and decompression program.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      15·
      4 months ago

      Moderation is like politics, and inherently attracts the most narcissistic and authoritarian, so it must be decentralized. As in users have to mod 1 comment/post for every n number of comments/posts they post &/or read after they’ve been active n number of months, but it would need to be done by averaging moderation across a random sample of users; preferencing users who are least bias and more trusted over time (but without growing dependent on them or their own safe spaces). I’d be happy to mod if it were an occasional part of participation, but I don’t want to mod everything, or it to be expected of me when I’m busy with life, or to do it permanently.

      FYI Lemmy will ultimately fail because the lead dev is a pathetic despot tankie manchild, as bad as the worst mods on reddit. He created Lemmy to admin ml as his own safe space. He will never give up the power it’s given him. It will need to be forked to solve the core problems.

      • Optional@lemmy.world
        9·
        4 months ago

        FYI Lemmy will ultimately fail because the lead dev is a pathetic despot tankie manchild, as bad as the worst mods on reddit.

        Fork it and move on.

      • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgEnglish
        1·
        4 months ago

        As in users have to mod 1 comment/post for every n number of comments/posts they post &/or read after they’ve been active n number of months, but it would need to be done by averaging moderation across a random sample of users; preferencing users who are least bias and more trusted over time (but without growing dependent on them or their own safe spaces)

        Nice idea. Mods are hard to find indeed, and this system could help

  • ChicoSuave@lemmy.world
    33·
    4 months ago

    I was banned from c/politics by that same mod because of bullshit reasons too. They’re a petty tyrant who can’t handle anything that might disrupt their echo chamber.

    • actually@lemmy.world
      14·
      4 months ago

      I just stopped activity in all places that mod had power in. I already had issues with news on lw.

      Going to migrate instances later.

  • I'll be on ShareMySims@lemmy.dbzer0.com@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
    29·
    4 months ago

    So excluding people due to a potential: innocent mistake, minor lack of knowledge, language difference (as simple as UK vs US English, and or different spelling from a different language you might speak. Either way, if you look it up, the spelling you used is not uncommon, it’s even used in some MSM reports and documentaries), learning and or one of many other disabilities, shit device.

    And they say we create echo chambers when we want to get away from such bullshit.

    https://medium.com/no-prescription-needed/grammar-the-worlds-most-under-recognized-social-construct-a54e096ecc9c

    • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
      8·
      4 months ago

      The fancy name for that is “linguistic prejudice”. It’s as old as language, and deeply ingrained in human societies, and it’s typically subconscious - like, you don’t even know why you don’t like a certain feature, until you try to find which groups use it.

      With that said, if I saw someone spell “palastinian” I’d expect the person to be an English monolingual. Native speakers tend to remember words by their spoken form (non-native ones often do it by the written form), and /ə/ can be represented by ⟨a⟩ or ⟨e⟩ there anyway.

      I love the link by the way. Good example of the issue.

  • answersplease77@lemmy.world
    27·
    4 months ago

    wtf is it with lemmy world mods. you think this is reddit? do you want your instance to be an echo champer or want users to just leave and join another?

  • Spiralvortexisalie@lemmy.worldEnglish
    26·
    4 months ago

    I have said it multiple times (many times removed) but Jordanlund and Flyingsquid are Jewish Supremacists that are pro-Israel in everything but name. They will show up to anything remotely Israel to defend Israel while saying they aren’t for Israel.

    • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
      7·
      4 months ago

      At least FlyingSquid has somewhat of a personality and comments on every day things without making every comment into a battle, even if most of his comments are shit. Can’t say the same for Jordanlund.

      • refalo@programming.dev
        4·
        4 months ago

        Make no mistake though, their dogmatic, cosmically inflated, egotistical god complex is visible from space.

      • catloaf@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        4 months ago

        That’s part of my problem with him, though. He comments on everyday things far too much. His comments are frequently inane and have very little discussion value.

        Sometimes, if you don’t have anything useful to say, it’s better just to not say anything at all.

        • JokeDeity@lemm.ee
          1·
          4 months ago

          Ehhhhh, I don’t agree there. I like just common banter being acceptable. I’m not trying to gatekeep anyone from having conversation.

  • njm1314@lemmy.world
    24·
    4 months ago

    Not surprised, Jordan is one of the fucking worst. If not number one at least number two worst mod on all of Lemmy.

  • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
    22·
    4 months ago

    This might be the worst one I’ve seen on here.

    Edit: Also, this is why trolling shouldn’t be against the rules… it’s way too subjective and always ends up getting abused by shitty mods. I get that people don’t like trolling but it’s better to be specific and ban the obnoxious things trolls do instead of trying to speculate about their state of mind.

    • Lvxferre [he/him]@mander.xyz
      2·
      4 months ago

      it’s better to be specific and ban the obnoxious things trolls do instead of trying to speculate about their state of mind.

      I couldn’t agree more with this.

      The difference between a troll and a genuine poster is intention - but nobody knows someone else’s intentions. And mods should not act based on what they don’t know.

    • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
      2·
      4 months ago

      Bad faith should absolutely be punished, for its own sake, and by name. But permanent bans are the dumbest thing a moderator can do. It guarantees nobody learns. It chases people to new accounts. It gives people every reason to go behind your back and tell people you’re a power-tripping bastard.

      What needs tolerance is telling trolls to fuck off. Even when their actions don’t rise to whatever asinine cutoff a moderator thinks trolling is - forcing people to play nice with dishonest assholes is psychic vampirism. They fundamentally need to be taken seriously, for their bullshit to work. ‘Assume good faith or else!’ is a gift to trolls.

      • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net
        1·
        4 months ago

        In theory this sounds good but in practice it has problems. First, not everyone agrees on what constitutes bad faith interactions, as that’s a poorly defined term to begin with. So first you’d have to build consensus around that. Secondly, most definitions are going to revolve around the user’s state of mind, which isn’t possible to know and in my experience is often misunderstood due to the sometimes heated nature of online discourse.

        So how is it fairly enforced? If this question can be answered to my satisfaction, then i agree. But I don’t think it can be. Therefore the best approach is to build rules and examples of bad behavior that are objectively verifiable. If these are comprehensive enough then the trolling and bad faith issues will be solved but we won’t have people getting banned for being bad at spelling or other BS you see on this com.

        • mindbleach@sh.itjust.works
          1·
          4 months ago

          not everyone agrees

          As opposed to when?

          Trying to define shitty human behavior objectively is a fool’s errand. People can be bastards beyond defense, in perfectly G-rated language. Forums with a mile-long list of nitpicky little rules are miserable compared to any straightforward version of ‘don’t be an asshole without a good reason.’

    • Annoyed_🦀 @monyet.cc
      2·
      4 months ago

      Hmm, yeah i thought trolling is specific enough but after some thought it could mean prank(in a good way) or deliberately provoke with inflammatory statement without the intention of debate. So i agree.