The funny thing is the right is always so anti-ACLU, and yet the ACLU will defend the right’s legal rights if they ever get violated, and have done that in the past. Just like the separation of church and state…they talk about that being a terrible thing, and yet religious freedom is better for it.
The ACLU is a broken organization for this very reason. They invest a great deal of their time and energy in trying to look nonpartisan by backing some of the most vile and irredeemable people in the country.
On the flip side, Democrats steer wide of the organization whenever it comes time to run candidates or appoint cabinet positions.
You’ll never see the head of the ACLU appointed to the DOJ or granted a federal judgeship. No more than a regional leader of Planned Parenthood gets to run for Senate in a bright blue state. They aren’t feeders to high office like the Federalist Society or the Heritage Foundation. All they are good for is fundraising from unhappy liberals.
The core premise of a right is that it applies regardless of who you are.
It’s not “the right to free speech unless we don’t like what you say”, it’s not “the right to due process unless the crime you’re accused of is really bad”, etc.
Protecting the rights of bad people equally with good ones is what they stand for. Rights aren’t conditional.
Protecting the rights of bad people equally with good ones is what they stand for.
It isn’t. When you’re describing is a revisionist mission adopted by the New York branch in the 60s and 70s.
The original mission of the ACLU was the defense of labor agitators, picketers, and organizers - common targets for right wing hate groups.
This article from Jacobin goes into the transformation of the radical labor rights organizer to centrist Free Speech absolutist.
The mission has shifted from defending working people to bad people as the ACLU grew divorced from its labor roots.
If you can remove the rights of people you don’t like, others can do the same to you.
If it’s not universal it cannot be a right. They’re mutually exclusive.
If you can remove the rights of people you don’t like, others can do the same to you
Except we remove these rights all the time, in large part because of the insidious bigotry that fanatics propagate. Defending the bigots does nothing to expand civil rights for the minorities they are marching to oppress.
FFS, the ACLU defended the Charleston tiki torch rioters. Whose interests did that serve?
If it’s not universal it cannot be a right.
Selective enforcement of civil rights is routine in the US. Hell, the same people crying about Campus Free Speech in 2022 ago were the ones calling for the heads of Palestine Solidarity protesters a year later.
Rights are rights for everyone, or they aren’t rights.
Rights have to be enforced. Enforcement is routinely selective and arbitrary, based on who is in power and who is enjoying a popular moment.
Yes, that’s what the ACLU does. Thank you for understanding. Now you know how you erred.
Yes, that’s what the ACLU does.
No, it isn’t. The ACLU has extremely limited resources and is necessarily highly selective with its caseload. Prioritizing fascists acting fash-ly deprives civil and labor rights activists of desperately needed legal aid.
Sounds like the Dems are broken in this case for not pulling from the ACLU?
Yeah defund all of their government funding which would reduce their funding by…… exactly $0. Musk is a fucking idiot. His supporters are even bigger, gullible idiots.
Thanks, I thought I was taking crazy pills for a second there. How is he gonna defund an NGO? lol
Exactly what I came to say… The ACLU isn’t funded by the US Government you absolute fucking knob.
People who agree with defunding the ACLU probably don’t contribute to the ACLU anyway, so they have no power to defund it. It receives no government money. I’m no psychologist but at this point Musk really seems like he’s in the late stages of some tragic mental syndrome, which is really a shame - he had the potential to accomplish so much - but I just wish he would STFU and stop sucking oxygen out of the room.
he had the potential to accomplish so much
No, not really. Everything he promises is either overhyped and underbaked, “ready in 3 years” every year, only viable in fiction, or some combination of all of them.
The people he pays had and still have the potential to do so much, though.
Experts in drug use and addiction told Business Insider, however, that taking some of the specific hard drugs mentioned in the Journal story would be risky for someone of Musk’s age, particularly if they have undiagnosed bipolar disorder, as he has previously suggested he does.
The Journal reported that the 52-year-old had taken cocaine, LSD, ecstasy, and magic mushrooms over the years, including at parties, citing unnamed sources who said they’d witnessed his behavior or had knowledge of it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-illegal-drugs-use-ketamine-microdosing-risks-2024-1?op=1
Late stages? You weren’t thinking this like eight years ago when started with the pedo tweets?
I mean… Who hasn’t tried to undermine actual professionals saving real lives by making up hypothetical solutions and when they do it successfully, call them a pedophile for weeks on end and get real butthurt?
He’s just a typical billionaire. Trump has normalized being a horrible person so now they’re comfortable being themselves
Lead poisoning is a bitch. I’m grateful that my parents managed to keep me away from the worst of it in the early '80s. Musk is almost a decade older than me, so he’s still a prime victim of lead poisoning. His parents didn’t avoid large cities.
Being around his Mum and Dad in apartheid south Africa is what did most of the damage.
The lead thing is mostly in America. Most places banned it LONG before the US did. So no, it is highly unlikely that Elon Musk, born and raised outside the US, has been exposed to lead as a child.
Elon is such a giant piece of shit
I know. Let’s hope he’s next.
Lowkey, I’d buy booze and weed and have a party.
I donated today just to spite him. Thanks for the reminder Elon!
Community Notes: This man is a giant crybaby
He looks like a crybaby
He doesn’t even say why–just defund it. Then again, if you actually trust that shitheel you probably aren’t looking for any better explanation than “thing bad, stop thing”
Been a monthly donor for years. Still not stopping.
He needs to be UHC’d and I’m pretty real sure the perp will get a parade in their honor
What am I missing here? Isn’t the ACLU a private nonprofit?
When will we rise up and rid ourselves of these pesky billionaires?
I have never had my long running, monthly ACLU donation feel so good or be so validated. I can always count on being on the right side of something if Elon is against it. Get fucked Elon, we don’t need your funds, and never did.
No greater confirmation of how much power you have then to have a billionaire threaten you
The ACLU have always been fighting and I don’t think they’ll stop any time soon.
This sub is ironically just another source of Musk spam.
But that’s the point. It’s supposed to keep the spam out of other communities. But it doesn’t completely work.
It’s called enough musk spam.
Wat?
This is the freeze peach.
