• Glide@lemmy.ca
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    3 hours ago

    This.

    The ramp up of anti-liberal propaganda around here is concerning. If the enemy is the right, why are we targeting the centrists?

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      Liberalism has become unpopular after repeatedly failing to hold back the right, while letting our problems only get worse. There are parts of liberalism we should carry on, but we should still leave it behind. MLs aren’t the answer, as they limit themselves by clinging to the identity more than the praxis. They’re both flawed in how they believe their own bullshit, giving evil a pass while believing things will get better.

      That said, liberals deserve all the shit they’re getting, as their apologetics for parasites cannot be tolerated. Let the wealthy flock to the right. They’ll soon realize that they gave up more power than they thought by endorsing fascism. They needed liberalism more than we do. If we survive fascism burning itself out, we’ll need to fight those fuckers to let us rebuild a functioning society.

      Tldr: liberalism helped the right. We need to let go.

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        The only thing I’d temper this with is that MLs are literally not a problem beyond terminally online spaces, particularly the sectarians you mention.

        Like yeah they can suck but I’m much more afraid of Proud Boys and the liberals that enable them.

        Ultimately I agree with you 100 percent it’s just an exhausting thing to always have to be like “yeah sure fuck tankies I guess” when discussing matters of actual life and death.

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          I’m just worried about how they hold back the left to terminally online spaces. We need to get out there more, not waste time cosplaying dead empires! Do that for a larp, but not as your identity.