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    Aren’t you tired of being labelled?

    Don’t you want to stop dividing people?

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      This.

      The ramp up of anti-liberal propaganda around here is concerning. If the enemy is the right, why are we targeting the centrists?

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        Liberalism has become unpopular after repeatedly failing to hold back the right, while letting our problems only get worse. There are parts of liberalism we should carry on, but we should still leave it behind. MLs aren’t the answer, as they limit themselves by clinging to the identity more than the praxis. They’re both flawed in how they believe their own bullshit, giving evil a pass while believing things will get better.

        That said, liberals deserve all the shit they’re getting, as their apologetics for parasites cannot be tolerated. Let the wealthy flock to the right. They’ll soon realize that they gave up more power than they thought by endorsing fascism. They needed liberalism more than we do. If we survive fascism burning itself out, we’ll need to fight those fuckers to let us rebuild a functioning society.

        Tldr: liberalism helped the right. We need to let go.

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            Economic ideals and political philosophies are a circular ven-diagram. The economy is inherently political, as politics are fundamentally about who gets what, when. The division between economic and social issues is a dangerous myth. Civil rights are economic issues, and stock markets are political.

            Liberalism is the philosophy that incorrectly decouples these two opposing views in your mind. Civil liberties and private ownership; human rights and capitalism. The two will ultimately come into conflict, and one must be sacrificed to maintain the other. Capitalism requires the liberal state, as it becomes feudalism without it. The rules based system of ownership is fundamental to capitalism’s existence.

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          The only thing I’d temper this with is that MLs are literally not a problem beyond terminally online spaces, particularly the sectarians you mention.

          Like yeah they can suck but I’m much more afraid of Proud Boys and the liberals that enable them.

          Ultimately I agree with you 100 percent it’s just an exhausting thing to always have to be like “yeah sure fuck tankies I guess” when discussing matters of actual life and death.

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            I’m just worried about how they hold back the left to terminally online spaces. We need to get out there more, not waste time cosplaying dead empires! Do that for a larp, but not as your identity.

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    Being comrades with someone with a Soviet ushanka sounds like a great way to have workers’ protests violently suppressed.

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      It depends on the status of your government. If your country isn’t totally controlled by fascism, yes, those optics will make things harder. You can’t mince words and avoid making your demands bold, but fuck the Soviets. They’re libs in a funny hat at best.

      In the US on the other hand, any type of protest is effectively done with on January 20th. Do not protest next year. We’re legit past that stage; the law is already dead. Work on keeping people safe from the state, because it will only represent the desires of POTUS.

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        Oh, I didn’t mean as a matter of optics for the public, just as a general “Association with repressive Soviet shitheads is undesirable”

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          It is. They’re a cringe cult, but people are looking for answers rn and are vulnerable to cringe cults. I don’t love when people trade MAGA hats for Ushankas, but I think that’ll be a problem in the future.

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      I second this, coming from a person living in one of the former Soviet Bloc countries, we do NOT want that kind of comradeship again. Nonono. Textbook Socialism (a k.a. not Stalinism) with a basis in secular humanism and friggin’ empathy, yesyesyes!

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        It does, unironically. Soviet aesthetics are pretty cool, a shame the Soviets ruined them by being the ones to use it.

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        Hey, nobody says ushankas should carry the sins of humans! We can reclaim ushankas as a symbol of empathy and… uuh… general goodness, I guess!

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          interestingly, china propagandized this peacetime soldier who died in an accident, lei fang, into this model citizen of kindness and selflessness, and thus the chinese call the hat the “lei feng hat” after propaganda depictions. whether that (and the fact that northeasterners usually wear the hat regardless of politics to combat cold) means it has shed communist symbolism is up to you

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          I believe Anarchist Batman from the Redsun Supperman comic used one.

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    aren’t you tired of being a liberal?

    don’t you want to be a liberal who doesn’t understand the point of politics?

    free your mind from pesky knowledge and political context, all it does is get in the way of forming autocratic groups and exploiting the people around you!