Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

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    On the plus side maybe we will start hearing about the horrors at the US Border that magically stopped in november 2020.

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      Well I guess the good news is that it no longer matters if they learn anything? These election results make it clear that going forward they’ll have about as much effect on lawmaking as a dead hamster. It’s even possible that, except for serving as a convenient cardboard bogeyman, they’ll otherwise cease to exist at all.

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        “It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.” ― Upton Sinclair, I, Candidate for Governor: And How I Got Licked

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        Democrats are learning in real time what the real function of a controlled opposition party is in a capitalist dictatorship.

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    I feel like people are just rolling over and taking it? He shouldn’t even be eligible because of the 14th Amendment “no insurrection” thing.

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      Democrats vocally came out against getting him off the ballot for his crimes alleging ‘you can only beat him at the ballot box’, but it turns out they can’t.

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      Only if you’re white. If not, do as your told or you may be assaulted, imprisoned, or shot dead. Sometimes you’ll do what your told and those things will still happen.

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      Eh, at this point a majority of the voting block voted for fascism. I’m about ready to just call it, go home and not participate anymore.

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        I understand your feelings but would urge you tor reconsider. All it takes for evil to triumph is for good people to do nothing.

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      Perhaps if you’re some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.

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        Perhaps if you’re some combination of white, or straight, or cisgender, or neurotypical, or rich, then this is good news. For anyone else its dire.

        I am Ukrainian. I have no idea whether Slavic people are considered white or not, but I am quite sure I’d benefit from a literal war in my country ending.

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            What makes you think that ending Russia’s horrifying invasion is more likely under a trump-ruled USA?

            Because dems have been funding this war since the beginning, and would certainly continue to do so? I think Harris explicitly said that she will continue the war (or something along those lines).

            Trump said that he is going to finish it by forcing both sides to negotiate. (Yes yes I know, every politician’s main job is lying. But when one person says that they will definitely kill everybody I know continuing the job of their predecessor, and the second one at least promises that they will not, whatever credibility that promise has in your opinion - I’m choosing the second one)

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        I’m sure he will, by giving Ukraine to Russia

        Wouldn’t happen, but even this is way better than giving it to Zelensky.

        and letting them murder Zelensky.

        No way. I mean that would be awesome of course, bringing justice to that murderer who killed hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians, terrorizing the rest for three years and not letting people escape. But that would never happen, USA almost certainly gave Zelensky some guarantees that he will be able to escape to USA after this war ends.

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      I just hope that he will follow through with quickly finishing the war in Ukraine.

      Yeah, that’s a monkey paw wish. His “ending the war in Ukraine” almost certainly means giving Putin whatever he wants.

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        Yeah, that’s a monkey paw wish. His “ending the war in Ukraine” almost certainly means giving Putin whatever he wants.

        Even if you are right (I don’t think so), so what?

        How is this worse then what is hapenning now (to Ukrainians)?

        Inb4 probably some delusiomal fantasies about how Putin is gonna invade the whole world, etc. :/

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          I recall they said the same about Hilter. It was called appeasement. Don’t accept bullies demands. Period.

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            I recall they said the same about Hilter. It was called appeasement. Don’t accept bullies demands. Period.

            Then go sign up for foreign legion and go make sure Putin loses. Don’t make Ukrainians die instead of you for your wild fantasies.

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              Make them die? They can surrender themselves right? As long as they want to fight I see no reason not to supply them with the means to usurp the oppressers.

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                Make them die?

                Yes, exactly.

                They can surrender themselves right?

                How? Surrendering in modern warfare is super hard, you will either be droned by enemy because they mistake your surrendering for attacking, or by your side for surrendering.

                As long as they want to fight I see no reason not to supply them with the means to usurp the oppressers.

                Sure, supply those who want to fight. You do know though, that people in Ukraine are given no choice? Zelensky forbade people to leave the country (and he is way more successful at keeping the western border safe than eastern one (that is, from people wanting to escape this hell) - weak against strong ones, and strong against weak ones). Zelensky’s regime kidnaps people from the streets and sends them to the meatgrinder. If you care about “helping people fight against oppressive regimes” you should support those people, not the ones terrorizing them.

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                  No, I meant Ukraine as a country could surrender.

                  I believe kidnapping citizens to fight is basically an express draft. Countries do it In times of war.

                  Not that this conversation matters. Neither of our opinions matter. Trump will stop support and they will becomes west Russia and I’m sure they will be kidnapped off the streets and drafted to go fight another war somewhere but this time not for thier country. USSR was soo nice before. I’m sure they didn’t treat Ukranians poorly before and certainly will not now that they put up a fight for years embarrassing russia.