He’s finally arrested.
Minneapolis police are now facing heavy criticism for not arresting Sawchak before the shooting even though he had multiple complaints.
Members of the Minneapolis City Council, including Mayor Jacob Frey, pointed blame at the Minneapolis police department for not acting on any of the prior complaints against Sawchak and failing to arrest him immediately after the shooting. https://newsone.com/5658819/white-man-shoots-black-neighbor-minneapolis/
WHAT THE FUCK
Call me crazy, but if you point a gun at a neighbor for any reason other than being attacked, you probably shouldn’t be allowed to have guns.
Brandishing is a crime. The issue here is it isn’t being enforced.
State laws differ and whether brandishing is considered a misdemeanor, a felony, or even a crime at all is going to depend on your state’s laws.
It’s not a crime at all in my state.
Wait for real? I could just point my gun at anyone i want and there is no law that’s being broken?! What state is that? That’s fucking crazy.
Pointing guns at people is an exceptionally great way to get fuckin’ shot. I can think of no better way to all but guarantee you get shot than to point a gun at someone else.
Yeah that made me have a thought. John Oliver did an episode on “stand your ground” ages ago, and reading that guy’s message, asking “what he can do”, I’m forced to conclude that for him, in the US, in that situation, it would probably be best to get a gun himself and the next time the guy does something like this, just two to the chest.
Seeing he has a restraining order and whatnot previous things, probably should be somewhat of an easy case to defend as self-defense, right? Unless it’s just even fucking sadder, and it is just because he’s black and he’d just end up imprisoned for murder.
God the world is shit nowadays where shall we congregate a force to have a teensy weensy global revolution?
… for him, in the US, in that situation, it would probably be best to get a gun himself and the next time the guy does something like this, just two to the chest. … Seeing he has a restraining order and whatnot previous things, probably should be somewhat of an easy case to defend as self-defense, right? Unless it’s just even fucking sadder, and it is just because he’s black and he’d just end up imprisoned for murder.
“Imprisoned for murder” might still be on the optimistic side of potential outcomes… He could well be murdered himself, by the police, in reponse to what you and I see as self-defense. (I am guessing from the “in the US” part of your comment and other context that you aren’t from here, and may not be aware of the history of institutionalized racism that would make any interaction with the police potentially dangerous for him. Forgive me if I have erred there.)
Forgive me if I have erred there
You’re so loud ghe whole (Western) world knows most about your business.
You are right of course, and any interaction with police could be dangerous. But if he just shoots the guy, then calls the authorities while clearly laying his weapon far away from him and being on his knees with his hands on his head, there shouldn’t be an excuse for the cops to murder him.
But an alarming amount of things I’ve thought would never happen with the police have happened. Both in the US and here in Finland. Now I don’t need to be afraid of getting murdered, but the abuse still didn’t feel good.
Imprisoned for murder
Imprisoned for self defense while black.
It’s a similar problem as driving while black, walking while black, etc…
John Oliver did an episode on “stand your ground” ages ago
Doesn’t require stand your ground, unless you could reasonably flee the attacker. If they’ve got a gun it’s not too hard to argue that you couldn’t reasonably flee or they’d shoot you in the back.
Stand your ground just removes the duty to try to get away from an attacker if possible, and is only the law in some states.
Unfortunately, that would probably just result in him drowning in legal fees. Killing someone, even if it is completely justifiable in self-defense, is extremely expensive. Like, 6 figures expensive. That said, this man is going to fucking kill him so…also I guess even if he doesn’t, now he has medical fees anyway.
Jesus Christ what an all around fucked situation :(
Vengeance is what happens when the system doesn’t provide justice.
Minneapolis City Council needs to take charge of this and clean house. Police aren’t going to do it themselves, so the holder of the pursestrings is the one ultimately responsible.
you can wait on reform or you can make them afraid of the people
“He should not have been shot, but I will say this: We had no reason to suspect that he would shoot the neighbor from inside the house.”
The man who was being very aggressively territorial wouldn’t shoot someone from inside his house?
No, they assumed he would go outside first.
They were really caught off guard by that and are frankly a little disappointed with the assailant.
Astounded by the mental gymnastics to say that after this person brandished a knife from inside his home saying he’ll kill someone, the police couldn’t imagine he’d shoot someone from the vantage point of his home. Incredible.
Once again, armed white criminals have more rights than unarmed innocent POC in this country. The police likely support what this man did.
For anyone who thinks this comment is hyperbolic, never forget Nathan Pelham the Jan 6 insurrectionist.
When police came to take him in he drunkenly shot his gun at them from his home. Shooting to kill.
The police drive away and let him “sleep it off”
Imagine if that was a black man. He and his whole family would be shredded by assault rifles.
White domestic terrorists are being coddled by law enforcement.
Arm the left.
It’s a racist institution. It stopped being good for the people decades ago. It needs to go.
According to CBS News, Sawchak was taken into custody early Monday morning. Police said Sawchak had been holed up in his house for several days, but just before 1:30 a.m., he surrendered peacefully
Several days? Was this a siege? In any other case they’d torn down the house.
With Christopher Dorner they burned the house down with him in it. Apparently the Minnesota police could use some training from California police.
Edit: /s
And in Colorado, police blew up somebody’s house because a shoplifter broke in and refused to leave.
With Christopher Dorner they burned the house down with him in it.
TBF that’s less egregious than randomly shooting up cars that didn’t even match the description of Dorner’s car.
He was white.
There must not have been any dogs or innocent bystanders to kill.
Besides, he was white, which is code for “negotiations only.”
I’m glad that, where I live, the racists find it difficult to get guns.
