I’m not a huge Lily Allen fan, but her first album was incredible.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfvOEn3GAo0&list=PLI6kLIhBBwmT_XV_24qMWetSE3tX_gvIF
I wonder how much her record label makes from her music on Spotify…
Who?
Theon Greyjoy’s sister
who’s sister?
This would mean something if anyone knew who she was as an artist
People know Weird Al’s an artist, and he used his Spotify Wrapped video last year to make a very public statement about how much money Spotify steals from artists: https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/weird-al-yankovic-spotify-wrapped-video-criticism-1234905887/
That’s wild, I guess she was only popular in Europe? She had a bunch of big hits around 2010, like “Fuck You” which was about George Bush
I’m American and I knew about her. Smile was at least a modest hit.
I said above that the album that was on, Alright, Still, is a really good album.
Edit: from Wikipedia-
Alright, Still debuted at number 20 on the Billboard 200 in the United States, with first-week sales of 34,000 copies.[51] The Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA) awarded the album a gold certification on 6 December 2007,[52] and by November 2013, it had sold 627,000 copies in the US.
That’s a bit less than half of UK sales, which is pretty good for a British artist in the U.S.
Would it? Another way to word this might be “Platform with 8,000,000 monthly streamers/listeners pays less than platform of 1,000 subscribers to view pictures.”
I don’t think this individual’s identity enters into it at all. That sentiment comes across as a deliberate, mean-spirited attempt to denigrate this person.
Whether or not selling pictures of one’s anatomy is a viable career, or a morally questionable career, or any questions along these lines are a separate discussion. This article to me points out the drastic discrepancy in two services, yet again calling attention to the issue of artists and their earnings when utilizing Spotify as a distribution platform.
Good for her. If I thought there was a market for my disgusting claws I’d sell feet pics too.
Be the change you want to see in this world.
Something I’ve noticed in British media as of late is that OnlyFans makes some serious money - enough so that a creator can essentially use local journalism as an outlet for promoting their page.
I doubt some of the figures, but if you were to dig into them you’d probably see that number after the media have basically told people “look! Lily Allen has OnlyFans!”
Alongside that, funny enough, OnlyFans is probably one of the UK’s biggest tech success stories. They make a lot of money, have only a few employees, and are basically leaders in their field. That’s probably another weighing towards this being a promo piece.
Do they make that much? I read only top creators do. Especially those who are already famous from other fields.
The previous commenter is saying that the company makes serious money.
Seeing how this thread is full of hate for Spotify by seeming large number of people who are fans of streaming music/podcast services, I’ll pos this question here:
What are the better alternatives for someone seeking to get their favored audios, in terms of library selection, able to form custom playlists and how much if any support to the artist/content creator actually gets to them and what is pocketed by the app?
Go to their concerts, buy the official merchandise and get CD’s or pay the whole albums like on qobuz (they also have streaming, but they sell hi-res flac)
Streaming is not designed to benefit the artist
There are none.
All of the services steal from artists, so I’d recommend ripping MP3 tracks from Youtube. There are several tools online for this purpose. Yes, the artist gets nothing, but the more important thing is the services stealing from the artists don’t get anything either.
Do this and then compensate the artist in other ways. Buy music directly from them if you can, or buy their merch, or something of that ilk.
I don’t think there’s all-in-one best option
library size
Deezer
how much is paid to the creator
Bandcamp
Self host and buy the albums
How big is the percentage artists get for the album really though?
At a recent (niche) music festival, they said it takes 50,000 streaming songs to pay the artist as much as a single CD sale.
That is a complex question but my line of thought is this: artists have accepted legal agreements on how to sell/stream their work and how much they get for it. You as a consumer don’t need to worry about this. If there is a way to buy/stream the product legally then the artist has approved of getting money that way.
Basically i don’t think this should be a point to discourage buying audio and owning it. The alternative is never owning music and tough luck if a song gets pulled because of legal disputes or whatever.
From creating toe tappers to taping her toes.
OnlyFans reportedly takes 20% of subscription revenue
That’s a mobster-loanshark level cut.
Leaving you with 80% of the revenue you, yourself, directly generate is unheard of in this day and age. If you have anything like a 9-5, you’re probably getting around 10-20%. The rest goes to all your bosses, and most importantly of all, the company shareholders.
Doesn’t Spotify offer like .5%
Maybe. Without it, though, the individual would have to build and maintain a site, direct traffic there, and handle payments, as well still do all of the community management and content creation they already do. Now either they’d spend their own time doing this if they have the knowledge, or pay others, which might meet or exceed that 20% depending on their income level.
20% is considered low
All others take at least 30%
I’m a girl, in a healthy BMI and with nice hair, pretty and freckled face, but my feet are super crappy. Like, crusty, toes bend at weird angles, hard skin in random places. Even my own husband is like “plz no, stop” if they get too near to him.
I’m now wondering if there’s a market on the other end of the scale…
Maybe, but do you really want someone jerking off to video of your super crappy feet?
Due to the people being people, who knows who has what kinks. I suppose there is only one way to find out.
And no, I’m not into feet myself.
Post pictures of them on Onlyfans.
Add the caption “Listen up, degenerates. I’ll only warn you once. I will release a new photo, closer than the previous, every hour, on the hour, until my subscriber goal is met.”
There is. There’s a fetish for everything. Certainly when it involves your feet, I’d ask your husband if he’d be ok with some internet strangers paying you every month to see your feet, the worst is he says no, and on the other hand if he says yes you have a second source of easy income
He’d probably have empathy pains for any future subscribers.
I used to know a dude that would have gotten hard at your written description here. No bullshit. Dude was obsessed with feet, and what he called “real feet” were his particular favorite. Feet that had seen some life, had been used was one of the few things he would talk about. Literally obsessive about feet.
I guarantee he is not the only one. The only question is if there’s enough like that to make any useful money out of a feet only business.
There’s something about foot fetishists that’s extra obsessive compared to any other fetishists I’ve run across over the years.
See, I can kinda get it for some elegant and well kept ones and I’d definitely down for some foot play in such cases. But I don’t know if that would even classify as a foot fetish when I constantly hear about how bad people have it for the (pardon) “ugly” and unkempt ones, which I just find weird.
But yeah… I mean, there’s like 8 billion people on this planet. There’s always some niche where one fits into that would get someone off and could be capitalized if they’d be willing to do so. Just keep in mind that you’re, in the end, still selling your body for sex in a way.
To be honest, I’d rather sell my body for sex instead of selling my body to backbreaking warehouse work
Damn, spotify truly is a scourge to artists.
Yep, spotify pays a fraction of what napster, tidal, and apple music pay while raking in record profits each year.
The entire music industry is built to grift money from musicians and Spotify is a second layer of musician grifting industry built on the first.
You know what, you’ve convinced. Your specific suggestion of ‘guillotine’ was particularly compelling.
Owned by Sony
Sony, Universal, and Warner. The three parasitic conglomerates that own the rights to almost all popular music between them.
Some years ago, an artist who was not a mega-star but was on all the major music services published an article detailing how well each one paid. I’m now kicking myself for not bookmarking it. I clearly remember Spotify being among the worst, if not the worst.
Snoop Dogg said he got 45k for a billion streams.
The musician I saw last week mentioned that he’ll get more money if you buy a CD from him now than if you stream his catalog on spotify for the rest of your life.
I don’t remember the artist’s name. I’m pretty sure the article was a text post, probably a blog. Not a youtube video.
Fractions of a penny.
I never considered myself to be a foot-fetish guy, but damn she does indeed have sexy feet
Eh. Not great, not terrible.
Holy shit. I have feet. Does anyone want pictures of a guy’s feet? They’re big and weirdly shaped.
I wear a men’s 14. Basically the DD’s of feet. My wife says I’m not allowed to show them off for free so get our your wallets folks.
I’m a big feet man and damn is it annoying when I go to a rollerskating or ice skating rink and the largest size they rent is 13 :(
You feel my pain. Literally! Last time I had to cram my feet into size 13 ice skates it sucked some of the fun out of it.
What’s up fellow size 14s!
I often joke that I’m the person happiest that malls have died off because as a kid I was always forced to go there and try on a a bunch of 12s and 13s that never fit.
These days I’m still upset that so many good looking shoes only go up to 13
I’m positive there is an audience for men’s feet, but if you aren’t 5 stars on wikifeet, you’ll probably have to market yourself. Study the foot fetish community to find out what the dude foot fan needs more of. Etc.
5 stars on wikifeet
Something about this part of your post made me giggle.
Is there any way I can do this without finding out any more about this fetish?
Hmmm…the problem is, even if you just post pictures at random, you’re going to find out unwanted info based on what pics bring in money. Sounds like you’d need a manager!
You can even call me a foot doctor, because I help rappers with defeat.
I’ve got a toe shaped like an alien. Maybe that’s worth something!
Me too, the one next to my big toe… On both feet.
I a small bag of nickels. Tell you what, I’ll even throw in a rubber ducky.
I think the estimated by billboard is fucked up but yeah the article seems completely broken
Am I missing something? Does it not say she makes an estimated $4000 per DAY from Spotify and $8000 per MONTH from onlyfans?
Allen’s daily stream count on Spotify as of Oct. 17 was about 851,623. Assuming that number is correct, the Music Streaming Royalty Calculator estimates Spotify would’ve paid a total of $4,077 a day, with $3,239 going to sound recording for the copyright owner; $336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter; and $503 in performance royalties going to performance rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI, etc.).
Which of these numbers goes to her? I’m just confused, I think.
Everybody likes to hate Spotify but if they pay out 4000 dollars a day and the artist gets nothing, that doesn’t sound like Spotify is the main problem.
That’s pretty well known. They cut shitty deals with the record labels so they can have a large library. The record companies are making massive bank on Spotify, unlike pretty much every other party involved, including Spotify.
There’s a definite industry problem, but that doesn’t excuse Spotify.
Apple Music pays artists 50-100% more than Spotify do per play, and Tidal pay triple to quadruple. Even Amazon pay artists more than Spotify; only YouTube is worse.
An unknown and probably pitiful fraction of $336, by the looks of it.
$336 of mechanical royalties going to the publisher, who pays the songwriter
Ok I did a little searching. She might get some of the $336 to the publisher/songwriter, but only if she is credited as a writer. Not every song is written by the artist. There doesn’t seem to be anything in that breakdown that goes to the artist specifically. The bulk of the money is going to the copyright owner, who is often the record company, and seems to be who owns her songs. It seems like whatever she gets paid would be up to whatever contract she signed with them.
This pdf file explains that a typical major label artist might make 18% of the $4077 per day.
https://www.manatt.com/Manatt/media/Media/PDF/US-Streaming-Royalties-Explained.pdf
If she makes $266 a day from onlyfans, she has to be making around 8% of the $3,239 the record company is getting daily for it to be less than onlyfans.
$503 in performance royalties going to performance rights organizations (ASCAP, BMI, etc.).
Performance rights organisations would pay her for performing. She’s get a fraction of that.
If those are the numbers I don’t see why people are complaining about Spotify, the problem doesn’t seem to be there
She’d owe a dollar at the end of each day. Which means she would lose money being on Spotify.
The article is missing the content from the quoted article for the 4,000 a day. It pays out 4,000 a day to the studios and publishers, whatever actually % of that she gets is probably less than 10.
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That’s what the article says. So sounds like Lily is full of it.
