• 5oap10116@lemmy.worldEnglish
      20·
      2 个月前

      And that’s just average. Chances are teachers are making anywhere between 40-100K in GA with the majority probably below 64

    • KitEnglish
      13·
      2 个月前

      $64k is a great salary in my area of PA. I’m not familiar with GA but I imagine it’s the same. To put this into comparison, the average household income in GA is $75k and most households are two earners, so yeah, seems pretty good.

      • TheDoozer@lemmy.worldEnglish
        14·
        2 个月前

        Now do it with average households with college degrees, since that’s a more reasonable comparison.

      • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        2 个月前

        Just because something is average doesn’t mean it’s good.

        If the average grade of a class is fifty… that doesn’t mean it’s a good grade. It just means a majority of the class is failing.

          • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 个月前

            Which part? Can you explain your reasoning in a way that’s not just “nuh-uh”?

            As I understand it, an average is when you add together several quantities and then divide that total by the number of quantities. How does this in any way affect actual living wage (or grades, in my given example)?

            • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.worldEnglish
              9·
              2 个月前

              Just knowing that the average is 50 does not in any way tell you the grades of the majority of the class. Most of the kids could be passing while a few abysmal performers bring the average down.

              • Zorque@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                2 个月前

                That’s what you take issue with? That the analogy isn’t completely perfect? Do you get the general idea of what I’m saying, or does that slight inconsistency complete negate the entire argument?

                The point is that an average isn’t indicative of overall health… it’s just a value representing the average income. It makes no bearing on actual economic health without comparing it to other factors.

                • CarbonatedPastaSauce@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  5·
                  2 个月前

                  No, it wasn’t about perfection. It was about you being wrong.

                  It’s ok to just reflect and try to do better next time instead of dig in and defend a mistake. It’s how we grow.

                • WoahWoah@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  2 个月前

                  The irony of not having a basic understanding of averages while talking about education.

                  Actually, you not understanding how averages work and then getting defensive when people corrected you is a pretty good argument for why we need to pay teachers more. Touché.

      • bizarroland@fedia.io
        2·
        2 个月前

        I mean it’s definitely nice but after pensions and taxes and everything else it’s probably like an extra $400 a month. Not exactly world shattering but definitely nice.

        • MutilationWave@lemmy.worldEnglish
          9·
          2 个月前

          There are a shit ton of people in this country living on so little that an extra $400 per month would be huge for them.

          There’s a percentage of those who would consider an extra $400 per month life changing money. If you were making minimum wage this would be the equivalent of working an extra 25 hours per week. Math is pre-tax.

          • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.mlEnglish
            2·
            2 个月前

            Basically align yourself against any social movement that has money on the other side. Think like the oil industry. Once you pick up a small reputation you can get kickbacks on the side.

      • eran_morad@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 个月前

        Bro. I saw the light and left academia shortly after my phd. I make a very good living doing other shit, mainly managing money and people. I do better than most tenured profs. So can you.

          • eran_morad@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            2 个月前
            1. Get phd.
            2. realize it’s a fucking scam.
            3. look for jobs.
            4. find one, realize it’s a viable career path.
            5. be strategic about pivoting until you’re handling accounting and investments.
            6. learn shit.
            7. get fat pockets.
      • WoahWoah@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        You make less than 64K/year as a tenured professor in NJ? The average tenured-professor salary in New Jersey is $105,880 as of September 01, 2024.

        I’m guessing some of this is on you and your choices somehow.

        • Final Remix@lemmy.worldEnglish
          1·
          2 个月前

          Yeah, not news to me. That’s just the breaks, man. Can’t all work as grantwriters at an R1 or in a med school.

          • WoahWoah@lemmy.worldEnglish
            1·
            2 个月前

            Sorry to hear that. The so-called “true poverty” line in NJ for a family of three is $70,327. It’s incredible to have a PhD and be below the adjusted poverty line for the state. Isn’t NJ incredibly expensive to live in? I’ve seen some crazy rent prices.

    • SynopsisTantilize@lemm.eeEnglish
      7·
      2 个月前

      I remember when teachers were complaining about making 24k a year in the last decade. (I’m just saying, not being contrarian)

      • Omgpwnies@lemmy.worldEnglish
        1·
        2 个月前

        “complaining” is a bad term. Being a teacher requires a bachelor’s degree and often extra schooling on top of that. It’s the equivalent of a professional with a degree and industry certifications. Where I live, a degree and certs is enough to get 70K straight out of school and easily over 100k after a few years of experience. There’s absolutely no reason that teaching shouldn’t pay any less than what someone with similar education would be able to get in industry.

  • BigMacHole@lemm.eeEnglish
    38·
    2 个月前

    Republicans are KNOWN to Do Their Own Research so they OBVIOUSLY would know he’s Lying and wouldn’t take His words at Face Value because he has an R by his Name!

    • Eatspancakes84@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      Also what’s the political calculus for Kemp? Maga hates him, because he has issues with Trump, on account of not stealing the election. Here he gets to signal his bipartisanship by saying he worked with Biden to raise the wage of teachers. Shouldn’t that be the savvier move in a purple state?

  • Burn_The_Right@lemmy.worldEnglish
    33·
    2 个月前

    Every word uttered by a conservative is deception or manipulation. Conservatives have been society’s liars throughout all of human civilization. Nothing good in the history of mankind has ever come from conservatism. Nothing at all.

  • radicalautonomy@lemmy.worldEnglish
    20·
    2 个月前

    After the housing bubble burst in late 2008, Democrats approved a stimulus package that Obama signed that sent millions of dollars to the nation’s schools. Then-governor of Texas Rick Perry used those funds to balance his shitty budget. None of it went to schools. The school I was teaching at lost it’s theater arts program, they had to reduce staff by attrition, the district rebalanced staff levels in a Last In First Out manner, we got no cost of living pay increase or step pay increase (same exact pay as the prior year), and class sizes skyrocketed. I didn’t have a middle school math class with fewer than 31 students that year.

    The following year, another stimulus package was passed for education. There was language in this bill that specifically said that it MUST be used for education purposes and that the money would be recouped from any state that doesn’t use it toward that end. Then-AG Greg Abbott went to court to fight for Rick Perry’s right to use the money however he wanted.

    And finally, the Texas lottery was sold to Texans as a way to provide extra funds to schools. However, that’s not what happens. Instead of funds from the lottery supplementing education, it supplants the funds. It would be like if your dad gave you $100 every year for your birthday, but then one year your grandma gave your dad $20 to give to you, and so your dad just gave you $100 and pocketed the $20.

    Texas Republicans don’t give a single solitary fuck about public education. I’d rail on their push for the voucher system, but I finally left that festering shithole and can’t be arsed to give a fuck about it any more.

    • ayyy@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      5·
      2 个月前

      No, he really can’t because he directly fought against the people that made this happen.