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    And yet when piecemealed liberals and Republicans will completely embrace the aspects of project 2025. The same way they’re doing KOSA which originated with the HF

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      Not as bad as schilling for the Russian plant Jill Stein— or acting like a traitor to promote a foreign power during an election.

      You don’t know anyone like that, do you?

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              Good on ya for respecting mods, but bruh, not everyone here who is not voting for harris, is paid to post by someone. Actually about half of the country isn’t voting for Harris. And they’re not getting paid to dislike her.

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                That’s true. But…

                We know there is an extensive campaign by the Russian government to divide the left and attempt to get Trump re-elected. And given the nature of our current electoral system, there are only a few reasons why someone would try to get people not to vote for Harris:

                • They are an honest Trump supporter. Fine. I disagree vehemently, of course, but such is life.
                • They are a true-believing third-party supporter. Very rare, given the low numbers for fringe candidates from third parties. Of course, these people are incredibly naive, because they don’t understand how third parties in a FPTP election system empower their own ideological opposition, but at least they’re honest, too.
                • They are a Trump supporter, but not honest, and for whatever reason, they consider it morally and ethically acceptable to misrepresent themselves and try to get folks on the left playing a game of “let’s you and him fight.”
                • They are a paid actor. I think this is the majority of the supposed leftists posting vehemently and continuously against Harris, while ignoring the grotesque abomination and clear threat to the country that is Trump.

                I mean that. I think the majority of people playing that particular game are paid to. Doesn’t mean they all are, of course, but it’s impossible to ignore the massive uptick in content from them right now, especially from shiny new accounts and from accounts that have been mostly inactive until now. There just aren’t that many third-party true believers or Republicans who want to spend all day, every day, pretending to be abrasive leftists.

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                  There just aren’t that many third-party true believers

                  Me and most of the people in my social circle. Look at the campaigns of socialist Claudia De la Cruz and the crowds of people showing up at her demonstrations. You think most of those people are getting paid?

                  And how do you think people just magically get paid to start posting articles? The reason I am asking is because I get accused of this DAILY. lol

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                    Me and most of the people in my social circle.

                    That’s a statistically insignificant blip unless your social circle is, for example, Delaware.

                    Look at the campaigns of socialist Claudia De la Cruz and the crowds of people showing up at her demonstrations. You think all those people are getting paid?

                    No, of course not. I was referring specifically to online, where a single person can operate thousands of bots spamming nonsense. You can’t do something like that at a physical event.

                    That said, her rallies attract hundreds of people at best. Harris’ rallies attract tens of thousands of people, with thousands more standing outside. And De la Cruz is polling in the low single digits. She’s barely a statistical blip. Yet online forums are absolutely flooded with support for her and for Jill Stein.

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                    Given the much greater size of the population that plans to vote Democrat, not likely.

                    Let’s take this out of the realm of politics for a sec, and bring up a topic nearly everyone can agree on: Chocolate. A full 90% of Americans like chocolate and prefer it to other candy categories. (Seriously, look it up. Americans fucking love chocolate.) Now imagine if you went to a candy discussion forum, and found that there was a flood of similarly-phrased and comments from a bunch of new accounts, all extolling the virtues of gummy bears and denigrating chocolate as a candy choice.

                    Would you find that believable? Or would you suspect some gummy bear aficionado had set up bots to spam the forum?

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        Liberals are so desperate to smear anything that’s a threat to their privilege in society and a perceived threat to the breadcrumbs that get tossed to them.

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      This is so self-evidently preposterous I don’t even know what I could add to further refute it.

      What do you think people hate about it, the name? Come on. Hatred for the proposals in it is the most bipartisan thing I’ve seen in a decade at least.

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          Yes, project 2025, loaded with unpopular ideas, opposed primarily by democrats, is actually a democrat wetdream. Because democrats have proven repeatedly their agenda is always rolling back human rights /s

          It’s moronic. You discredit yourself so hard, it’s actually hard to top your own words.

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              The militant communist is getting their catchphrase from the Brady Bunch. Which btw wasn’t a cool reference 15 years ago either. lol

              Not to mention that you want to imply that democrats long for the dissolution of human rights but you know saying it outright is laughably indefensible even by your standards, so you keep quiet on that and toss out your little snarky deflection.

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                Your party voted in favor of anti-trans legislation which was bipartisan in sponsors and cosponsors. Written by a Democrat and a Republican. But instead of calling it an anti trans bill it was presented as saving kids, KOSA

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                  Notice how you hide behind the fact that it likely was bad legislation just by the name of it and refuse to explain what you are talking about in any way. How is this “anti-trans”? You might be right (doubt it outside of some particular edge cases, but prove me wrong). But you’re begging me to dismiss you by just being condescending about it.