Good on ya for respecting mods, but bruh, not everyone here who is not voting for harris, is paid to post by someone. Actually about half of the country isn’t voting for Harris. And they’re not getting paid to dislike her.
We know there is an extensive campaign by the Russian government to divide the left and attempt to get Trump re-elected. And given the nature of our current electoral system, there are only a few reasons why someone would try to get people not to vote for Harris:
They are an honest Trump supporter. Fine. I disagree vehemently, of course, but such is life.
They are a true-believing third-party supporter. Very rare, given the low numbers for fringe candidates from third parties. Of course, these people are incredibly naive, because they don’t understand how third parties in a FPTP election system empower their own ideological opposition, but at least they’re honest, too.
They are a Trump supporter, but not honest, and for whatever reason, they consider it morally and ethically acceptable to misrepresent themselves and try to get folks on the left playing a game of “let’s you and him fight.”
They are a paid actor. I think this is the majority of the supposed leftists posting vehemently and continuously against Harris, while ignoring the grotesque abomination and clear threat to the country that is Trump.
I mean that. I think the majority of people playing that particular game are paid to. Doesn’t mean they all are, of course, but it’s impossible to ignore the massive uptick in content from them right now, especially from shiny new accounts and from accounts that have been mostly inactive until now. There just aren’t that many third-party true believers or Republicans who want to spend all day, every day, pretending to be abrasive leftists.
There just aren’t that many third-party true believers
Me and most of the people in my social circle. Look at the campaigns of socialist Claudia De la Cruz and the crowds of people showing up at her demonstrations. You think most of those people are getting paid?
And how do you think people just magically get paid to start posting articles? The reason I am asking is because I get accused of this DAILY. lol
That’s a statistically insignificant blip unless your social circle is, for example, Delaware.
Look at the campaigns of socialist Claudia De la Cruz and the crowds of people showing up at her demonstrations. You think all those people are getting paid?
No, of course not. I was referring specifically to online, where a single person can operate thousands of bots spamming nonsense. You can’t do something like that at a physical event.
That said, her rallies attract hundreds of people at best. Harris’ rallies attract tens of thousands of people, with thousands more standing outside. And De la Cruz is polling in the low single digits. She’s barely a statistical blip. Yet online forums are absolutely flooded with support for her and for Jill Stein.
And I know people like myself get accused of getting paid daily. And why? Because we post news articles about third parties. Not everything is a conspiracy.
And also, to your point, if these third parties are such a statistical blip, then you have nothing to be worried or angry about. So why even get mad at posts that aren’t pro-harris?! Such small statistical blips shouldn’t affect the outcome of the election at all, right?
Given the much greater size of the population that plans to vote Democrat, not likely.
Let’s take this out of the realm of politics for a sec, and bring up a topic nearly everyone can agree on: Chocolate. A full 90% of Americans like chocolate and prefer it to other candy categories. (Seriously, look it up. Americans fucking love chocolate.) Now imagine if you went to a candy discussion forum, and found that there was a flood of similarly-phrased and comments from a bunch of new accounts, all extolling the virtues of gummy bears and denigrating chocolate as a candy choice.
Would you find that believable? Or would you suspect some gummy bear aficionado had set up bots to spam the forum?
But is everything a fucking conspiracy?! I mean, a full HALF of the country is not voting for Harris. Half.
Are there some people paid to promote? Yeah, I’m sure there are. For EVERY party. I just don’t think it’s nearly as much as you do.
Also, it would be a total fucking waste of money to pay someone to shill on Lemmy. Lemmy hates third-parties with a passion anyway.
People hate me so much, that when I have posted non-political posts to say a science community, within 30 seconds there will be 10 downvotes. And not from the science community, because even they get confused why so many downvotes so fast.
Why? My name. And why? Because I posted third-party articles.
I’m very proud to vote third-party, but the amount of bullying and false accusations I get from Democrats are much more hateful than what I get from Republicans. I mean, Republicans hate me too, but nothing like the Democrats on Lemmy. lmao
And I promise you, any slight motivation I had for even considering switching to Democrat, was obliterated by the comments and hate I get here. I’ll never vote for Harris now. I don’t care what happens. lol
Liberals are so desperate to smear anything that’s a threat to their privilege in society and a perceived threat to the breadcrumbs that get tossed to them.
Glad to see you’re finally coming around and realizing how paranoid it was starting to sound, accusing so many people of being Russian agents or being paid by them. Whew! Thanks, friend.
Not as bad as schilling for the Russian plant Jill Stein— or acting like a traitor to promote a foreign power during an election.
You don’t know anyone like that, do you?
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Eh. I disagree, but I can take my lumps.
Good on ya for respecting mods, but bruh, not everyone here who is not voting for harris, is paid to post by someone. Actually about half of the country isn’t voting for Harris. And they’re not getting paid to dislike her.
That’s true. But…
We know there is an extensive campaign by the Russian government to divide the left and attempt to get Trump re-elected. And given the nature of our current electoral system, there are only a few reasons why someone would try to get people not to vote for Harris:
I mean that. I think the majority of people playing that particular game are paid to. Doesn’t mean they all are, of course, but it’s impossible to ignore the massive uptick in content from them right now, especially from shiny new accounts and from accounts that have been mostly inactive until now. There just aren’t that many third-party true believers or Republicans who want to spend all day, every day, pretending to be abrasive leftists.
Me and most of the people in my social circle. Look at the campaigns of socialist Claudia De la Cruz and the crowds of people showing up at her demonstrations. You think most of those people are getting paid?
And how do you think people just magically get paid to start posting articles? The reason I am asking is because I get accused of this DAILY. lol
That’s a statistically insignificant blip unless your social circle is, for example, Delaware.
No, of course not. I was referring specifically to online, where a single person can operate thousands of bots spamming nonsense. You can’t do something like that at a physical event.
That said, her rallies attract hundreds of people at best. Harris’ rallies attract tens of thousands of people, with thousands more standing outside. And De la Cruz is polling in the low single digits. She’s barely a statistical blip. Yet online forums are absolutely flooded with support for her and for Jill Stein.
And I know people like myself get accused of getting paid daily. And why? Because we post news articles about third parties. Not everything is a conspiracy.
And also, to your point, if these third parties are such a statistical blip, then you have nothing to be worried or angry about. So why even get mad at posts that aren’t pro-harris?! Such small statistical blips shouldn’t affect the outcome of the election at all, right?
What about new accounts posting pro-democrat articles. Are they agents of the democratic party being paid to post articles too?
Given the much greater size of the population that plans to vote Democrat, not likely.
Let’s take this out of the realm of politics for a sec, and bring up a topic nearly everyone can agree on: Chocolate. A full 90% of Americans like chocolate and prefer it to other candy categories. (Seriously, look it up. Americans fucking love chocolate.) Now imagine if you went to a candy discussion forum, and found that there was a flood of similarly-phrased and comments from a bunch of new accounts, all extolling the virtues of gummy bears and denigrating chocolate as a candy choice.
Would you find that believable? Or would you suspect some gummy bear aficionado had set up bots to spam the forum?
But is everything a fucking conspiracy?! I mean, a full HALF of the country is not voting for Harris. Half.
Are there some people paid to promote? Yeah, I’m sure there are. For EVERY party. I just don’t think it’s nearly as much as you do.
Also, it would be a total fucking waste of money to pay someone to shill on Lemmy. Lemmy hates third-parties with a passion anyway.
People hate me so much, that when I have posted non-political posts to say a science community, within 30 seconds there will be 10 downvotes. And not from the science community, because even they get confused why so many downvotes so fast.
Why? My name. And why? Because I posted third-party articles.
I’m very proud to vote third-party, but the amount of bullying and false accusations I get from Democrats are much more hateful than what I get from Republicans. I mean, Republicans hate me too, but nothing like the Democrats on Lemmy. lmao
And I promise you, any slight motivation I had for even considering switching to Democrat, was obliterated by the comments and hate I get here. I’ll never vote for Harris now. I don’t care what happens. lol
Liberals are so desperate to smear anything that’s a threat to their privilege in society and a perceived threat to the breadcrumbs that get tossed to them.
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Historically Low Faith in U.S. Institutions source
Are you bragging?
Just giving an explanation for why someone might harbor ill feelings towards the U.S.
So was I
So, 84% of Americans dissatisfied with American institutions are victims of propaganda by a foreign power?
So, you were trying to brag
Still, I’m not willing to give you that much credit…
goddamn the rock hard edge on this one, it’s sooo cooool.
FEC Filing Shows AIPAC Made Record Donations to Congress in November
You think everyone that’s not voting for Harris is “shilling.” Dude, you are shilling for Harris all the time. lol
Im not getting paid by a foreign actor to do that, though.
And neither are the folks you’re accusing. Funny how that works, right? Lol
Suuure…
Glad to see you’re finally coming around and realizing how paranoid it was starting to sound, accusing so many people of being Russian agents or being paid by them. Whew! Thanks, friend.
Lol