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I’m genuinely interested in this because even non-judeo-christian people from my country are circumcising their kids and they’re encouraging me to do so too to my son. Any conclusive research on circumcision? I see conflicting information like it reduces sexual pleasure and also that it’s not really true. That it reduces STD risk for both partners as well and that it reduces UTI risk for female partners.
Let the person decide when they’re an adult. Perpetually washing their wang uncircumcised, or needing to wash their wang less - circumcised, but washing it anyways cause hygeine.
I’m intact. In my country it’s only done for medical reasons.
My friend had circumcision performed in his 20’s because he was having trouble during sex. He later confided to close friends that it was shit; Initially he was constantly uncomfortable because of the friction of his glans with underwear, until it desensitized!! and he had to lubricate to masturbate, among other things. He also said that sex was plain and simple worse, that he had lost a lot of sensitivity, and that it took him way longer.
Those who are circumcised who tell themselves they fine are deluding themselves.
That the US allows ritual infant genital mutilation is plain and simple barbaric.
Those who are circumcised who tell themselves they fine are deluding themselves.
utterly pointless insulting victims like this. stop.
Fuck no, cause those same shitheads are totally fine with the continuation of the practice. They try to minimize the trauma to feed their own insecurities.
People who downplay circumcision can get fucked.
If everyone got a lucky number tattoo before they could even talk, something nonconsensual and superstitious, some people would end up liking their tattoo or not caring either way. Such a person can still find the practice wrong, horrific even. If you have personal trauma it does not justify assuming people’s positions and calling them shitheads.
Circumcision without consent and without a real medical necessarily is barbaric and needs to end.
My point is that I can’t take it back, so I choose to enjoy what I have instead of lamenting what I should have. Maybe if foregen succeeds I’ll consider that tho
I’m not insulting anybody, I’m simply pointing out that to pretend everything is fine, is looking the other way.
How else am I supposed to enjoy what remains of my penis?
I’m empathetic about your situation. I think it’s the best to make the best out of it. I simply say that saying all is OK makes it sound as it’s a trivial matter, and helps the practice keep being carried out.
As a victim, I wish people had insulted previous victims so that they wouldn’t pass on their trauma to the next generation.
I regret what I did to my newborn son. It’s 22 years too late to change it, but as an atheist with an atheist son, I should have done better.
Were you at atheist at the time if circumcision? If so; why did you go along w it when they asked you if you wanted to circumcise your son? Did the fact that insurance didn’t cover since they deem it medically unnecessary ring any alarm bells at all?
Not the commenter, but in the US insurance covers it if it’s done initially; I think that’s been the case even when I was born. What’s weird is it’s practically the default, and you almost just say yes without a second thought (I only questioned it thanks to posts like this, lol).
Beyond wild . Casual infant genital mutilation
It’s so barbaric and gross. And I guess nobody questions why their god has a fucking fetish for the skin from infants’ genitals.
Totally not weird.
They REALLY tried to push it on my son. Must have asked 4 times!!! I’m lucky my mom is a total hippie and educated, so I was spared even decades ago when it was less talked about.
From the people I know who I’ve heard explain their reasons, the hospital staff just presented it as a thing that’s normally done and they were pretty much like “yea whatever” because it was done to them. I haven’t talked to a ton of people about this because it’s a weird thing to have come up in a conversation in person but that’s what they’ve all said.
If it helps, I’m circumsized and I’m glad my parents made that decision. Not sure how your son feels, but it’s really not a big deal assuming it was done well.
The reason I’m glad is because the woman I’ve dated happened to all all prefer cut to uncut.
Queue the “REEEE” from the anti-circumcision folks…
Jesus Christ get a grip.
I nearly died the first time I had sex because a surgeon in california botched a circumcision my parents had done. they’re not jewish, just evangelical christian.
he severed some nerves so I basically have no feeling except at the base. Basically, I can’t get off from vanilla sex… and uhm… those warnings on viagra commercials about erections that last longer than 3 hours? yeah. uhm. they’re serious.
That’s bonkers, St Paul repeatedly talks about how circumcision isn’t a thing Christians need to do, even rebuking those who said it was: Gal 5:12.
https://www.biblegateway.com/quicksearch/?quicksearch=circumcision&version=NIV
especially 1 Cor 7:19 “Circumcision is nothing and uncircumcision is nothing. Keeping God’s commands is what counts.”
there was also a fad where medical professionals were suggesting that not circumcising might lead to hygiene issues later. parents claimed that’s why they did it. I don’t think that’s the whole truth, particularly when they were talking about my nephew when he was born. “Excuse me. I can’t have sex because of that procedure” made for a very awkward moment at the dinner table.
You can thank Mr Kellogg the cereal guy for why ameicans love circumcision. He was a conservative Quaker weirdo
In my experience, Quakers are generally super cool, not particularly conservative, and the good kind of weird
That’s not a circumcision related thing.
Yes.
The doctor that refereed teenage-me to a specialist, or the specialist, or the second specialist that we went to for a second opinion.yeah. they totally don’t know what they’re talking about.
FWIW, Mohels (the jewish individuals who perform the B’rit Milah) take far less of the foreskin; and it’s “generally” a “safe” procedure. The surgeon that performed mine fucked up and covered the fact up.
Oh. I assumed you meant as a baby. I guess this is a rare reason to have this done as a baby.
What’s the reason to have it done as a baby? There is no reason; you can’t determine any potential penis issues someone might have while they’re a baby
There are a small number of complications that can arise, including some that require the procedure to be done later. Obviously this is more traumatic for a teenager than a baby that doesn’t have modesty issues and heals much, much faster.
But what you do with your kids is up to you. I’m not gonna be there standing over your shoulder.
There’s a small number of complications that can arise from anything, we don’t use that as an excuse to preemptively perform surgery on babies. The issues that can come from botching genital mutilation far outweigh any “benefits”. People have killed themselves over this
Any surgery later in life is traumatic. That’s not a good excuse either
Bruh.
I was circumcised as an infant. I didn’t find out about the nerve damage until I was a teenager.
You know how puberty works? For me it was how it always was, and I didn’t know something was wrong until an ER trip.
What on Earth do you mean?
Ofc it is.
They don’t have regular feeling in their dick because of genital mutilation, so they did a ton of Viagra, which they wouldn’t otherwise have needed.
Hmmm… whenever this comes up, I’m glad I left my kids’ intact. At the same time, I’m fairly indifferent about mine. Circumcized or otherwise, it’s magnificent.
Also, given the hour I do want to remind non-US that it’s weirdly seeped in the culture, perhaps even more so than gun ownership. I haven’t the faintest idea why, though. Its also weirdly covered by my insurance, although only if done as part of the whole labor package. If you do it later on, it’s additional cost (and me being a cheapskate was probably even a bigger deal than me being atheist, lol).
Look up John Harvey Kellogg. That should help explain things.
Yup, Kellogg’s Cereal guy. Also avid hater of masturbation. He even wanted to pour acid on the clitoris so women would be desensitized as well.
There, tl;dr’d it for you
Yeah, America is a crazy place
I’m glad Kellogg’s brother (who wasn’t a puritan nutjob) couped him out of the company. I normally hate shit like that, but in this case it was a good thing.
The large number of Christians has led to it being common, so doctors ask every time a baby is born, and most of the time the parents say yes because they dont realize how it will affect their child
The way my dad told it. When I was removed (tumor baby ftw) the doctor was just about to cut me and my dad stepped in. And told the doctor something along the lines of, “if you cut his dick off I will cut your dick off”
Dad was a 6’4 Vietnam veteran.
It’s high-time we filed a class-action suit and forced them to return those ill-gotten foreskins to their rightful owners.
There is no course of action for legal reform because the right to genital mutilation is enshrined in the US constitution. Any action to enact justice would have to either happen outside the US or outside the law.
Needs to be cross posted in shirtsthatgohard (idk how to link stuff in lemmy)
Don’t worry someone’s posted it like 8 hours ago.
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I just did it for the looks
How are you healing?
I didn’t get an infection
What are the arguments for it, if not religious, and not for medical reasons?
Is it actually cleaner?
Cleaner than having a foreskin when not following proper hygiene practices
I surgically removed my ass so I don’t have to wipe. It’s much cleaner this way, and god loves me more somehow.
Cleaner if you’re living without running water.
No. It starts from “it’s always been this way”, and then people come up with retroactive justifications because they feel negative feelings about being mutilated without their consent and need to justify it to themselves.
Honestly there isn’t a lot of good scientific studies on this. There are medical reasons to get a circumcision but I’m no expert.
I wish there was more good information on it. People seem very emotional about the topic and without good info it’s hard to have a meaningful discussion about it.
It’s weird how these threads never mention another reason many folks do it… Women often prefer cut to uncut.
Do not take my word for it, though. Go ask single woman what they think. This is a thing. Don’t shoot the messenger, though I know you all will lol. Downvote away.
For medical reasons. A lot of people on these threads like to say there’s no medical reasons, but that’s just not true. They’re just kinda minor and a bit disputed.
You can make the same claims about FGM. Minor inconsequential medical benefits should not be a defense for removing part of a person’s genitals without consent.
It was absolutely horrible, just like most of my conversations with Finns who have many of the same issues. I honestly don’t know why I bother trying, but I do.
Reminds me of my time as an elephant mohel.
