Woodworking partner: for when you want no garage space, to be frequently annoyed by loud noises, and to have half of your furniture and bowls made of epoxy. We don’t need another table, Jeffrey! We already have six. Our home only has three rooms that could fit a table already! You have a sickness! I don’t care that it’s in the shape of a whale!
“I don’t care that it’s in the shape of a whale!” is now my new favorite phrase and I now plan on 3D printing that to hang on my wall
During the winter holiday season it should have a ring around it and say “Happy Saturnwhalia!”
Where is Linux?! Surely it must be on the top, I be reading (manuals), “foregin” language (bash), writing (scripts). Right?
Reading the fucking manuals, no less!
Man pages count, right?
I don’t think Karma Sutra teaches you how to code.
do read them though
My wife used to think that a man who knew how to work on cars was sexy until I built a racecar in the garage, and she saw the parts invoices.
She also used to think a man who cooks is sexy until she learned that I am a GOOD cook and consequently that means I don’t want help, I want you the fuck out of my kitchen, don’t sample the ingredients they are weighed and portioned for a damn reason and if you put sweet baby rays on a $50 cut of steak again it will be the last time I ever cook for you.
if you put sweet baby rays on a $50 cut of steak
Monster!
Grabs Heinz 57
You can come over on burger night… with the mustard guy.
Yeah! You’re supposed to use mustard.
Hey I’m the good cook husband with a car problem too.
My wife never wanted to help cook though, she loves that I take it on by myself most times.
And I get the kitchen mostly to myself (though I’m sharing it with my son more now, which is slower, but pretty fun).
I taught my 4yo daughter to answer “Yes Chef!” When helping me in the kitchen. Its pretty adorable.
My 6 yo did “yes boss” for a while. But that’s less common lately. He still does it when we’re working in the garage sometimes though and it’s the best.
Shit, I have to ask. What in the world is Manosphere?
The best explanation I’ve heard for it, which also dips into the why, is:
Once upon a time, there was the patriarchy. For men, this meant they had the purpose of being the breadwinner, for the price of massive mental health issues, since they were never allowed to show weakness.
Nonetheless, a whole culture and identity evolved surrounding this struggle, with beards and alcohol and it being totallynot an expression of missing personal closenesscool to have sex with lots of women.Then came along feminism with the ultimate goal of fixing this. It didn’t intend to take anything away from men, but it kind of requires allowing women to also be breadwinners, which slims down the purpose of men.
Suddenly, it’s potentially not enough to bring home money, you need to help out in the household and not be a complete mental health wreck. You need to be able to show weakness.And while this is great for many men, it’s also where a lot of men get kind of left behind. They’ve lost their manly identity or their breadwinner purpose.
And that’s where the whole mansophere stuff comes in.
People telling you everything is exactly like 50 years ago, and you should be wearing a beard and drinking alcohol and having sex with lots of women.
In a weird sense, this is good for men. But the whole community is also massively misogynistic, and blaming feminism rather than appreciating it as a potential proper solution, and of course, you’ve got right-wing “thoughtleaders”, i.e. white dudes with microphones, to round it all of.
We desperately need better solutions for these men.Patriarchy is still screwing everyone over today, including men like it always has.
Except the beard thing…some of us get a terrible rash if we shave.
That and the smoothness only lasts an hour or so…what is the fucken point. I wish there was some kind of check box option when entering your teens:
- [ ] have beard, but if you shave you get itchy and red
- [x] just can’t grow a beard
Oh yeah, I’m not saying anyone who has a beard or drinks alcohol or even has sex with lots of women is immediately participating in that culture.
That culture is more about celebrating these things on a basis of them supposedly being manly. They will of course mention that beards may look good or that it’s just good to not need to shave every day, for various reasons, but if women could also grow a majestic beard, then this wouldn’t be part of their identity/culture.
And yeah, I do absolutely agree on that chatbox. In my case, my beard grows so quickly that it’s just tiresome to shave it all the time. But it’s so patchy that it looks awful and it never stops being itchy for me.
If I could’ve just told my body to not bother with the beard thing, I would have saved about a month of my lifetime that I spent shaving.I’m sitting in the backyard after work with my beard, my alcohol, and watching my chickens hunt grasshoppers in the yard… I nearly felt personally attacked.
If that had said “beard, alcohol, and chickens” then I would’ve been resigned to the stereotype.
Edit: on the beard, I’m just lazy. It’s just going to grow back anyway plus it’s a time saver. I’m rolling out of bed, into clothes, and into work at 05:30. Ain’t nobody got time for shaving. I gave up on shaving about 40 years ago.
My guess is listening to bro podcasts and bro websites.
Haha even porn as a hobby (wtf) wins that
If you like rabbit holes: https://youtu.be/BgO25FTwfRI
What are these hobbies???
Yeah my hobby is Arguing Online
Spoken like a madman
Drinking
???
Fuck you, those can be hobbies! *drains shot*
Hey, pass me the hobby!
But you can combine those two hobbies, it unlocks some form of super power!
One of my hobbies is “drinking”. I love craft cocktails and craft beer. I collect craft liquors and share them with my friends. I even make my own cider and beer sometimes. Maybe home brewing doesn’t fall into the “drinking” hobby as much.
til i have hobbies!
My husband’s main hobby is collecting baseball cards, but he also makes money buying and selling them (along with Pokémon and MTG). He was always a bit embarrassed of this hobby until he learned he has autism and it’s just his special interest. Now he understands and accepts himself better. And that’s hella attractive.
Hell yeah tell your husband to keep rocking on.
Hasn’t he heard? Collecting cards are cool now with a huge community, and bonus points he has an amazing partner who loves his confidence.
Is he seeing anyone?
My takeaway is that gaming is a neutral.
The secret is couch co-op
Me:
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Apparently so is porn and traveling, so I guess it’s a pretty inclusive list.
her: “hey babe what’re doing”
me: “just working on hobbies and myself watching porn and smoking marijuana”
her: 30% turned on
Why are you constantly doing it if it’s not fun for you?
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90% think archery is an attractive hobby. Really.
I did a informal survey at work a few months ago where we as a team play archery or play bowling. And 100% of the women staff said archery and then talked about Hunger Games.
Huh? I think archery is a pretty cool hobby. Then again I might be “slightly” biased…
You tend to kinda get very strong doing that so…
Foreign languages, bet they mean French and Spanish. And not the weebs learning Japanese or the Dutch
Also who would call their porn watching habits a hobby? It’s just something you do to kill some time, like scrolling social media. A hobby is something you can get better in or gain deep knowledge in. Calling porn a hobby is like calling eating, or shopping a hobby. Consuming stuff is not a hobby.
The random callout of the Dutch is pretty funny. Dodged a bullet there.
I met a guy whose hobby was painting vulvas. It was a very active hobby and his apartment was covered with his work. He seemed very proud - his gf not so much lol
Sure, people say hiking is attractive, but I can only assume there’s a bias to forest hiking.
Meanwhile, I go out and do a four to five hour urban hike and people act like I have some sort of disorder.
“wHy DoN’t YoU jUsT dRiVe?” Because a drive to the beer store in the town across the river is an errand, a walk to the same place is a fucking ADVENTURE, Helen!
Wait… So the fact that I walk 5 miles a day means that I go on a hike every day?
I actually have a bias against the forest hikes. Had a gf that loved going on nature walks. I probably wouldn’t have hated them so much if smartphones had existed back then, but nope just flip phones.
That means that of all the stuff on top, I don’t do gardening, or travelling… Mostly.
I mean, a hike is really just a long walk. It often refers to long walks in the country or wilderness, but that isn’t a necessary component.
That said, I don’t know if anyone has any real strict distance thresholds for a ‘hike’ (see: minimum 10 miles/16 km or something). I could maybe see adding a caveat that it should be for purely recreational purposes, rather than say walking to work or something.
Fuck it - you’re an avid hiker IMO. Walks in nature are nice, don’t get me wrong, but I like all the hidden gems you can find hiking in an urban environment (I count graffiti, weird posters, dilapidated buildings/infrastructure, weird shit on the side of the road, etc.)
Hello, my hobby is arguing online - are we a match?
I don’t have any hobbies in the “least attractive”, but also not many in the “most attractive” either…and the ones I do - hiking and photography (of the stuff I see while hiking) are not really things my partner is into. Oh well, I guess we make it work.
Almost all of the hobbies that I have and that are listed are in the “least attractive” column. Explains a lot, I guess.
ITT: people missed to poke fun at “blacksmithing”
Who on earth is blacksmithing as a hobby? Is that even possible except if your occupation is actually being blacksmith? Like, would you set up blacksmithing equipment in your garage?
Yes. One of my coworkers has done exactly that.
That’s good to know. But I can imagine the electricity bill.
Blacksmithing is mainly done with coal, not electricity. So just imagine all the dust in addition to cost for that instead =)
I don’t want to.
Propane forges are pretty cheap. The real money is in the anvils…
Interesting, I didn’t know these existed. Thanks!
Yeah! For sure. You can pick up a little 3 venturi one for knife making for under $200. I’m no expert by any means, but I have my fun.
To start blacksmithing you need a space to pile up some charcoal, hairdryer and a tube, a hammer and tongs + something that can be used as an anvil(i have used a piece of old railway on a log
Yeah you can easily set up a home forge.
looks at the apartment
I think my neighbours would prefer I didn’t
Knifemakers typically.
you should watch forged in fire. the best competition show ever
My brother-in-law does smith knives for fun at home
I have friends that 3d print and woodwork, plus one who was setting up a forge to smith when life threw some bad stuff at him (fire, car accidents, etc). It doesn’t seem strange to me. Lots of people like hobbies and smiting/knifemaking seems relatively popular, if a bit expensive.
On the other hand that woodworking friend had a whole lathe so a small forge doesn’t strike me as odd. A bit of googling suggests you can get some backyard forges between $70-300, and can just DIY and make your own. By contrast my camera (OM-D Em1 Mk III) cost me somewhere between $1.5-2k, with just one of my lenses also costing $1.5k.
My GPU also cost that.
“Metal Fabrication”
i’m sorry blacksmithing? I mean it’s cool as fuck, don’t get me wrong, but have you seen that shit? it’s the LEAST sexy hobby by far.
Also, traveling is not a hobby, stop pretending it is. That’s like saying veganism is a hobby.
anyway, my main hobbies consist of playing minecraft or factorio like an autist, fucking around with linux, or philosophy, so i probably score, somewhere…
I think it’s more of what kind of people women are imagining as a blacksmith. They’re probably imagining a rugged man in their 30s/40s with practical muscle definition and enough financial stability to have the time/land for their own personal forge.
Likewise Travelling is just a proxy for “a ton of disposable income, and willing to take their partner to nice places”.
i guess from that perspective it makes more sense, but i feel like you could easily throw something like “yard work” in there it would be equally as strenuous and status based lmao.
Yard work is a chore. Gardening is on there though.
yes but now your suburban home looks good and you’re proud of it. Seems relative equivalent to blacksmithing to me. Especially considering blacksmithing is actually the precursor to weapons manufacturing.
Gardening is close, though i think different enough to warrant being different.
What’s with the anti blacksmithing sentiment? Most people just find someone’s genuine passion to be an attractive quality, wherever their interests lie.
nothing wrong with it, it just isn’t sexy or hot. The only “sexy” part of it is one of the less involved parts of it.
You still have to do a lot of cleanup and build work after the fact.
I mean i literally said as much in the comment lol
Not sexy? Perrin Aybara would like a word.
“this real life hobby isn’t hot?”
links a fictional universe:
Apparently you’re not sexy enough to understand
maybe not, but to be fair, i’m not really sure how many people consider smelling like coal and tasting like sweat sexy.
Throw in some steel and abrasive dust. And hooo buddy do we have a cocktail of… something.
My wife loved the idea that I was into wood cutting. What she didn’t realize was when I said woodcutting, I meant I studied the blade and practiced chopping wood with my anime sword.
based
I wonder if hobbies here may mean what people talk about primarily, because some aren’t hobbies unless it’s all you do or something. Like arguing online.
that might be the case, but i think this list is just… Poorly compiled to be honest.
Without knowing the prompt they replied to and how the scoring scale worked, its hard to take much from it.
Its like we took the useful and personal responses from each woman, randomized them and included outliers and things from other categories, and spit them out in a useless pile.
I’ve looked up the original article and some other articles, and one thing I’ve noticed is the ones here on lemmy focus more on what is highest vs lowest, while some articles focused on the comparison between men and women.
They had ~800 respondents, 48% identifying as women. They asked the same question, which I don’t know the exact question but the gist was what percentage of women found this hobby attractive. There are some disparities in perception, usually towards the more attractive than men think.
For instance, one article pointed out men assumed 7% of women found MTG attractive, whike women responded with 28.5%. There were also charts that focused on the largest disparities:
i like to think it was just like, multiple different forms, not even one clean one. lol