• KillingTimeItself@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    3 months ago

    Why is makeup so low? To me that’s super attractive if a guy likes wearing makeup because it shows that he is secure in his masculinity and probably isn’t a misogynistic asshole, but maybe I’m just into feminine men?

    i really hate makeup, it’s nothing other than an artistic expression of what you think you look good as.

    which if you want to do it, i’m not stopping you i have better things to care about. But it’s also not that deep, there is no connection between men wearing makeup and being secure in their masculinity, there is a connection between men who won’t wear makeup because it’s bad for their masculinity and their insecurity in masculinity.

    I feel like this is like saying “men who shave their faces are secure in their masculinity”

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      3 months ago

      Did you see what I put in paren at the bottom?

      Also I strongly disagree with the statement that there is no connection between men wearing makeup and them being secure in their masculinity.

      … there is a connection between men who won’t wear makeup because … their insecurity in masculity.

      This is exactly why I like men who are into makeup, because they’re not going to be insecure in their masculinity most likely.

      For me this comes from having lots of bad experiences with masculine presenting men and it takes me a long time to feel safe around a guy, but if they are more feminine presenting I feel much safer around them because all the feminine guys I know have never done anything to make me feel unsafe.

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        3 months ago

        Did you see what I put in paren at the bottom?

        yeah, i just have problems with people drawing super wide and broad conclusions like this, even if they’re generally true.

        Also I strongly disagree with the statement that there is no connection between men wearing makeup and them being secure in their masculinity.

        i think there’s a correlation there, but i don’t think it’s directly linked. It’s not an additive thing, insecurity in masculinity is a reductive thing. It removes aspects from someones life, that’s why it’s an insecurity.

        The more accurate statement here is that men who are secure in their masculinity are more likely to wear makeup.

        For me this comes from having lots of bad experiences with masculine presenting men and it takes me a long time to feel safe around a guy, but if they are more feminine presenting I feel much safer around them because all the feminine guys I know have never done anything to make me feel unsafe.

        that makes sense, but i think this is probably a whole other topic of discussion, i was mostly just annoyed by the way it was worded lol.