• uis@lemm.ee
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    3 months ago

    Instead you get this queue for 1 train boarding on track 13/14. (it is worse if there’s multiple trains boarding simultaneously):

    First of, are people waiting for boarding here or what? I see all of them are in standing pose. To board a train they need to be on platform where train is, not in the middle of hall.

    Edit: also I don’t think people understand the scale of NYC’s population and train rider ship. Moynihan ridership is 8 million annually.

    IT IS SO TINY! Even Kursk train station had 12 million of annual “far”(national+international) ridership in 2018. You can add 59 million annual ridership of regional trains on it. Or consider Yaroslavl train station annual ridership of of 6 and 72 millions respectively.

    Source

    And while seating there sucks too, at least there is no requirement to have ticket.

    Edit 2: In this thread people that don’t understand the difference between Amtrak, regional commuter trains, or subways

    I presume Amtrak is how americans call (inter)narional trains.

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      3 months ago

      Yes, they are standing to board. Because the NYC train station is under ground (tunnels are needed to get under the river, the platform is also under ground like a subway. The platform for the tracks are very narrow. So a train will come in, it will disembark all passengers and change crew. During this time above ground passengers get in line to present tickets. They then walk downstairs to the platform and board the train. But because the platform is underground and relatively small, it is not a comfortable or safe place to wait to board while guests disembark.

      Platform for amtrak at Penn Station/Moynihan:

      I think that is correct about consider Amtrak like an international train like SNCF in France to TGV. It’s passenger focused, but generally for longer trips with people carrying luggage. We also have regional/commuter trains for rides less than ~90 minutes meant to get people to work in the city.

      For seating, it’s somewhat limited because of the size of the station, but it’s also right in the middle of new york city. If you are looking to sit for an extended period of time and the weather is nice, there’s public seating at bryant park or the squares or blocked off seats on broadway outside of times square. But NYC doesn’t have a ton of space, and the train station is designed to prioritize the train passengers.

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        During this time above ground passengers get in line to present tickets.

        So my first guess was correct, presenting tickets is done before even entering the platform. I can see it on regional trains with turnstyles in front of platform, but for international trains it is unusual. Usually tickets are presented on platform right in front of train.

        Platform for amtrak at Penn Station/Moynihan:

        Interesting… Looks smaller than I expected.