Similar to the time Soviet Russia wanted to join the anti-Soviet alliance which was trying to pretend wasn’t made to plot against the soviets.
So I’d get reddit content without having to deal with reddit’s nonsense layout and terrible app? That sounds kinda nice actually.
Which makes me think they won’t do that, at least until they realize their current plan won’t work out in the long run. So far they’ve been going in the opposite direction by locking down everything:
- killing off third party apps
- making it difficult to access on old Reddit or mobile web
- only letting search engines index the site if they pay
- talk of paywalling subreddits
I mean you’re already getting Reddit content, Lemmy is basically just Reddit reposted.
Not when you block that reposting bot. Every once in a while I’ll see something that’s a screenshot from reddit, but that’s fine. We can get content from all over. Reddit used to get 9gag screenshots and commenters would throw up in their mouths a little over that.
I’m not talking about a bot. Just scroll around and then go to Reddit for a while. Same exact content.
That’s just the Internet now. Every site has content pulled from other sites and their share of local content. Then it gets reposted with more compression artifacts each cycle until it degrades and returns to the earth.
Agreed. Which makes it weird that so many people on here seem somewhat upset with the idea that I’m pointing that out. Though I absolutely think Lemmy gets way way more than it gives.
I’d look at it this way: a lot of people on Lemmy came from Reddit, but people’s reasons for leaving are different.
Some left Reddit for what it was, but still want what it has. Namely, they want the content and community, but they want to access it on their own terms, so they try to recreate it on Lemmy. If Reddit hadn’t fucked with their app access, they’d still be on Reddit.
Others want to actively avoid making Lemmy into Reddit 2.0, seeing it as a failed model, and so they try to prevent the spread of “Reddit-isms” in their instances. It’s a gatekeeping measure to prevent the spread of normies, thereby keeping their communities small, niche, and nerdy.
I’m honestly surprised there are a number of people in here who would push back against the idea of having federated access to Reddit content when this very community is unapologetically a Lemmy analog of Askreddit.
Sometimes i see something on reddit that ive seem already here. Very little is OC
Except for the gifs.
And the thousands of niche communities/subreddits.
All the downvotes but literally every post here I see is on Reddit hours or days beforehand.
A) It’s not literally every post
B) Stop using reddit. Problem solved.
A) literally means figuratively. Go grab a dictionary and check yourself.
B) Was I complaining about Reddit? If anything, I’m complaining about the fact that Lemmy is much smaller and often delayed in getting me news about current events
If you can’t miss hours in the 24 hours social media cycle, you should probably cut back your exposure my dude.
You’re on Lemmy.world, lol. It was designed to be a FOSS clone of Reddit.
Lemmy.world is Reddit 2, most other instances are actually pretty unique.
I meaaaan, while I did join Lemmy because I was sick of reddit the company’s greedy decisions, I do miss the amount of users and content it has/generates. If reddit joining the fediverse meant they couldn’t dictate what app I use to view their posts, I probably would enjoy being able to browse their content again.
You can kinda already do that, apps like rdx, Stealth, and Geddit pull reddit content without using the API. You can’t vote/comment, but you can still follow communities that have worthwhile content.
I can still use reddit reader
Same tbh idk if it’s the community or the app for me
D E F E D E R A T E D
I’LLI WON’T BE BACK
We already have Lemmy.World no need for two of them
OK, I’ll get stoned for saying this, but I’d welcome it if done properly.
It’s a large user base, lots of niche communities.
The more complicated part would be moderation, as that’s already a problem now. Also, resources may be a problem.
Lemmy.world already exists unfortunately
I do miss some of the subreddits though
I came to Lemmy because I disliked what Steve Huffman did to reddit.
I’d be completely fine with the users being here. I do miss the whole active community for every niche little thing part. If if federates that’d be neat.
It won’t, since greedy Steve Huffman can’t sell the fediverse to Google while screwing 3rd party devs and users that make it what it is. But I’d welcome it.
I miss the reddit I loved. Life is not the same anymore. I can’t just google for anything reddit and find sources. The community was on a level never seen before or after. I too welcome all the people who made it great. Bots and ads and ads and ad bots can have their wasteland.
As long as it didn’t pollute the fedi timeline with ads, AI slop and partnered posts, that’d be OK to me… (If someone worrying about our posts/comments being used by AIs, it’s already happening even for those instances that does not federate with Threads; Proofs? Once I searched for my own username and I got surprised on how my fediverse posts are spread all across the results through federated instances that I never heard about, so if my fedi content shows on Google, it’s certainly being fed to some AI datasets)
people just dont understand how public the fediverse is.
It is radically public. It’s designed to broadcast your content to hundreds of other peoples’ computers running all manner of different software which might then rebroadcast it to yet more. The whole architecture is oriented toward spreading things far and wide, and what tools exist to restrict the audience or retract content already shared are little more than polite suggestions.
That’s not a flaw, but people using it should understand how it works so they don’t run into surprises.
The same way we dealt with threads. Defederation.
I’d be very down to be able to subscribe to a couple select subs back there.
But I’d also be a bit disappointed because several Reddit communities have fediverse versions that are just nicer to be in, and I’m not so sure they’d survive if people could just go interact with the reddit equivalents via federation.
it wont happen, that would basically be broadcasting reddit content to servers whose intention is to offer it up the public for free (no ads).
if we cant utilize their api without paying through the nose, there is zero chance theyll let activitypub do it for free.
Wdym, reddit already joined fediverse, it’s called lemmy.world.
Hey! As a person who used to use reddit but got tired of how terrible it was then moved to the first Lemmy instance I could find, I… Agree? I’m not really sure.
They can do what they want, but if they want my contribution, they play by our rules.
Free, public API to support 3rd party readers. None of this paid API extortion, ads, super upvote monetization nonsense. AI generated stupid discussion communities I will block on sight.
More vibrant and active niche communities I will be happy to receive but I do like things as they stand too.
I’ll be honest, I’d be happy. I know Reddit as a whole sucks, but there are individual communities that still hold value. I miss active communities for niche crafts, I miss fandoms, and I miss actual life-changing shit like trans DIY, especially for countries outside the US.
I mainly stopped using Reddit because they killed third-party apps. If I could access Reddit from here, that’d be a pretty sweet deal for me.
I agree, as much as I hate Reddit’s leadership and a lot of the toxicity of the hivemind, it will be a long time before anything reaches the level of niche communities it has with a critical mass of users and I miss some of them.
Sometimes you just want to geek out about something small with the 40 people across the planet that actually care about it.
Would be among the first to suggest a reddit-defederation pact to be honest.
Kinda like how peeps on Mastodon/Misskey/etc. have their anti-threads pact.
Reddit federation would not happen before Steve Huffman’s exit from the company, and given that he is solely responsible for the changes that made Reddit unusable to many, I’d actually encourage federation given that after that happened, Reddit would become just another instance with no API control or ability to affect the goings on of any other part of the ecosystem of apps, servers, communities or even the Lemmy codebase.
Reddit would become just another instance with no API control
Being that large of an instance gives a lot of api control all by itself. Theoretically Chrome is just another browser and member of WHATWG. in practice, if they implement something it immediately becomes a de facto standard. Reddit would be the same.
I wouldn’t bet on Huffman’s exit doing anything of consequence either. Reddit is now under the control of investors who want a return. One way or another, monetisation of users will increase.
