• Vanth@reddthat.comEnglish
    18·
    3 months ago

    Semi-serious answer. Greeks like Homer and Euripades and Virgil, the bible, Shakespeare. Lots of Western pop culture is a rehash of old stuff.

    Answering the question more as you likely intended. Pokemon. Harry Potter. Star Wars. The MCU.

    From what I suspect is due to my personal bubble, Star Trek; ST pops up several times per week in my life. And Twilight, I’ve got a group of friends who are queer and will jam a Team Alice or KStew reference in at every opportunity. It seems like the rest of the world has moved on from Twilight love and Twilight hate, but this group is keeping the discourse alive.

    • PrincessLeiasCat@sh.itjust.works
      3·
      3 months ago

      FWIW, I’m seeing a lot of Twilight reflection going on right now that’s not unlike the Star Wars prequel reflection from a few years ago. It’s definitely being revisited.

  • Fondots@lemmy.world
    15·
    3 months ago

    The big ones that really cross at least a few age brackets, have wide general recognition and probably aren’t going anywhere in the near future (I may take some liberties with what I consider to be a franchise) in no particular order-

    Star wars

    James Bond

    Lord of the rings

    Sherlock Holmes

    Batman

    Superman

    Spiderman

    Mission Impossible

    Mario

    Zelda

    Pokemon

    Indiana Jones

    Back to the Future

    The Karate Kid

    A Nightmare on Elm Street

    Friday the 13th

    Child’s Play

    It

    Rambo

    Rocky

    Jurassic Park

    The Matrix

    The Terminator

    Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles

    Transformers

    The Simpsons

    Barbie

    GI Joe

    He-Man/Masters of the universe

    Mickey Mouse

    Toy Story

    Looney Tunes

    King Kong

    Godzilla

    Planet of the Apes

    Mad Max

    The Muppets

    The Godfather

    Ghostbusters

    Alien

    Star Trek

    Robocop

    Frankenstein

    Dracula

    Tarzan

    Conan the Barbarian

    Jaws

    Harry Potter

    The Incredible Hulk

    The Dollars Trilogy

    Sesame Street

    The Hannibal Lecter series

    MASH

    I think in general, most people have at least heard of these properties, would probably recognize at least a few of the main characters, objects, logos, memes, quotes, the theme song, etc. they’ve probably made some reference to them, and could give at least a vague explanation about what they’re about or what the major themes are whether or not they’ve actually seen/read the source material

    In general, I’m kind of counting a franchise as something that has had at least 3 major installments, iterations, episodes, series, remakes, reboots, etc. so a stand alone book, movie, etc. wouldn’t count, nor would a book or movie and a sequel, a book and a movie adaptation, etc. A book, a movie adaptation, and a reboot movie would, a film trilogy would,a tv series would, a movie that’s been rebooted/remade a couple times would.

    Barbie feels like a weird one on this list to me, unlike GI Joe who’s had pretty big movies and cartoons and such that make it pretty hard to argue that it’s a franchise, most of Barbie’s notoriety comes from the dolls themselves and I’d be kind of hesitant to label a line of toys as a franchise instead of a brand, sure there’s been animated movies and video games and such, but none of them had really been particularly noteworthy. And I wouldn’t feel quite right labeling, for example, Lego as a franchise despite having had pretty considerable success with movies and video games and such. But the character of Barbie, branding, marketing, etc. kind of puts her in the same league as Mickey mouse and I just felt like she belonged on the list.

    Some of the classic characters - Frankenstein, Dracula, Sherlock Holmes, are arguably not really a franchise, there’s not necessarily one company or person who owns their likeness and is marketing them, but they loom large enough in the public consciousness that I think they deserve to be mentioned in this list as well

    I tried to keep this relatively universal, though I’m sure my biases as a cis straight white American millennial male showed through in places. There’s a lot of franchises that form pillars of pop culture for specific demographics but not necessarily in general, and I tried to stay away from them, but a few of them just felt significant enough to me to warrant inclusion, in particular I kind of question how much general appeal He-Man has, for example, but I feel like if you say “He-Man” everyone has a mental image of the character seared into their brain (personally, I’m not sure I’ve ever even seen a whole episode of He-Man or really engaged with any masters of the universe media in general, but there he is in my brain and I don’t really know how he got there)

    • Baku@aussie.zoneEnglish
      2·
      3 months ago

      I don’t know if they meet your criteria for a franchise, but any forum based website (including Reddit, Lemmy, etc) always ends up with at least 1 office, friends, or IT crowd reference somewhere in the thread. They’re definitely essential pop culture pillars, even if they don’t qualify as franchises

      I’ve still never seen any of them though

      • Fondots@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 months ago

        I think by the definition I gave they’d qualify as a franchise, although for those 3 properties it kind of feels a little wrong to me and maybe I need to rethink my definition a little because they’re kind of self-contained shows, they don’t really branch out into anything larger than themselves.

        Personally I think the IT crowds appeal is somewhat limited, at least in the US (it may have more widespread appeal in its native UK, I genuinely don’t know,) to sort of the nerd/techy demographic. The lines certainly get blurry because nerdy types have a lot of influence on how memes spread, but I don’t know that it has the same impact on pop culture in general as the other two.

        I’m also not certain how much staying power friends has outside of the people who were watching it or at least remember it being on when it first aired. I’m not exactly plugged into what gen z and alpha are watching, but i don’t think I hear it come up amongst them very often, and I’m not even sure younger millennials care for it all that much.

        The office I think has probably cemented it’s place in pop culture whether we consider it a franchise or not. Which is kind of a shame for me personally, because I could never get into it.

    • Hegar@fedia.io
      2·
      3 months ago

      I’m of an age where I agree with almost everything on this list. I don’t know that It deserves a place though, and despite extensive media consumption I’ve never heard of The Dollars Trilogy or Child’s Play.

      • Fondots@lemmy.world
        1·
        3 months ago

        Child’s play- Chucky the killer doll

        Dollars Trilogy - A Fistfull of Dollars, For a Few Dollars More, and The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. I did kind of waffle on this one a bit, but I ultimately decided to include it if for no other reason than because whether youve actually seen it or even realize it you probably have The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly’s theme song seared into your head as pretty much the western movie song.

    • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
      17·
      3 months ago

      Thrones is fading fast. It will be gone in ten years. Unlike Lord of the Rings, there’s no new generation watching it.

        • leisesprecher@feddit.org
          7·
          3 months ago

          Not even one generation, the entire runtime is not even 10 years, and you’d have to be in a rather small age bracket to get the full brunt of the “cultural” impact. My parents’ generation watched it, but it wasn’t really all that different from everything else for them.

          It’s actually super interesting to see the fall of GoT. It fell into oblivion almost immediately after the last season finished.

          • WhiteOakBayou@lemmy.world
            5·
            3 months ago

            It’s really wild. Even in my own life we watched each of the first six seasons over and over while waiting for new ones. By the end of it I felt no need. I barely remember how it ended and have no desire to watch it. Kind of sucks, I think I’m right in that age bracket that it was a big deal for. No lasting impact. Like Avatar

      • blackstrat@lemmy.fwgx.uk
        7·
        3 months ago

        Its basically gone and died already. It’s as if it never existed to almost everyone, even those who watched it first time are not re-watching it.

      • Rolando@lemmy.world
        7·
        3 months ago

        I was waiting for it all to come out before I watched it. Then the consensus was that it wasn’t worth watching.

        • wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
          1·
          3 months ago

          I waited too, and it was worth it.

          The last… two seasons-ish drop off in terms of pacing ridiculously, which causes the overall plot to suffer as they rush to the finish. There’s also a bunch of stuff about how everything ends that feels cheap because while it’s a believable state for everything to end up in, it isn’t earned or worked towards. The show is usually a slow burn punctuated by the occasional “big shit happens suddenly”, while the final seasons are just speeding along with no time to examine character motivations etc. Stuff that was hinted at previously jumps from “are they hinting that?” straight to “oh, yeah, it’s that. And about 10x the level they hinted at”.

          That said, there’s still a TON of good content in the show up until the end.

  • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
    7·
    3 months ago

    Alien because of HR Giger’s iconic art style, among other things. Also Frank Herbert’s Dune, the first planned film adaptation of which Giger also worked on (sometimes considered as the best movie that was never made). In addition to the cultural influence that the book series already had, Dune also more or less spawned the real-time strategy computer game genre (with Westwood Studios’ Dune II).

      • DandomRude@lemmy.worldEnglish
        5·
        3 months ago

        Yes, Dali would have been great as the emperor.

        But Jodorowsky’s unfinished Dune project still had a significant influence on several major science fiction films and media, despite never being completed:

        1. Alien (1979)
        • Dan O’Bannon, who worked on Jodorowsky’s Dune, later wrote the Alien script
        • H.R. Giger’s designs for Dune inspired his work on the Xenomorph
        • The Alien Xenomorph’s design has roots in Giger’s Harkonnen Castle concept for Dune
        1. Star Wars (1977)
        • George Lucas was reportedly influenced by the Dune storyboards and designs
        • Jabba the Hutt’s appearance may have been inspired by Baron Harkonnen’s design
        1. Blade Runner (1982)
        • Ridley Scott hired Dan O’Bannon and Moebius, who had worked on Jodorowsky’s Dune, to help create the futuristic world
        1. Contact (1997)
        • The opening space sequence was allegedly inspired by Jodorowsky’s planned opening for Dune
        1. The Incal (1980s graphic novel series)
        • Jodorowsky and artist Moebius recycled many concepts from their Dune work into this influential comic series

        Check out the documentary “Jodorowsky’s Dune” (2013). It explores how the pre-production work and assembled team for this unrealized film went on to influence much of modern science fiction cinema. It’s worth a watch.

  • Mothra@mander.xyz
    3·
    3 months ago

    The Simpsons

    Star Wars

    LOTR

    MCU / DC (both franchises are huge and span decades)

    Barbie ( girls have been playing with these dolls and following their trends for generations)

    Disney Classics (not sure if this counts as a franchise?)

    I can think of at least ten more franchises that are solid and influential but that either need a couple more decades or a bigger following to match the aforementioned ones

  • eightpix@lemmy.world
    1·
    3 months ago

    This is an impossible question to answer. But, I’ll give it a shot anyway. I’ve expanded the meaning of “franchise” to include “all properties sublicensable for the purposes of profiteering.”

    If “popular culture” refers to the recognizable and persistent elements of living in society that the majority people share in common without having to communicate that recognition, I’d regard the following franchises as having broad impact worldwide:

    • McDonalds/Subway and all attendant advertising as a signpost for food. Franchises abound.

    • Esso/Shell/BP as gateways to modern conveniences and transportation. Every gas station, residence, farm house, hen house, outhouse, and dog house is connected to these franchises in some way.

    • G4S/Securitas/Garda as the front line protecting the ‘haves’ from the ‘have-nots’. Franchises abound.

    • Most athletic, luxury vehicle, and brands as the status symbols they want themselves to be. Franchisees promote the brands as a means of collecting clients.

    If, on the other hand, “popular culture” is, ‘traditions and material culture of a particular society. In the modern West, pop culture refers to cultural products such as music, art, literature, fashion, dance, film, cyberculture, television, and radio that are consumed by the majority of a society’s population. … types of media that have mass accessibility and appeal’ (ThoughtCo.) then the following are some fairly strong indicators of popular culture:

    • Hello Kitty (be pleasant)

    • Pokémon (pursue goals)

    • Superman/Batman (masculinity, vigilantism)

    • Paw Patrol (institutions are essential)

    • the Olympics (do athletics)

    • Michael Jordan (be excellent)

    • Mickey Mouse (dream big)

    • Star Wars/The Bible (G vs. E)

    The ones I wish would take hold and have more of an influence:

    • X-men (biodiversity is good)

    • the Expanse

    • Battlestar Galactica (genocide, rebellion, impersonation, terrorism, coups d’état, civil war, infidelity, succession, military conflict, asymmetrical warfare, treason, mutiny, pirate broadcasts, nuclear warfare… and that’s just the first half of the series)

    • Tony’s Chocolonely (ethical economics)