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      I live inside that ring. Bought a 5 bedroom house for around $100k 3ish years ago. Been putting some work into it, hoping to sell in a couple years to move even deeper into the ring.

      The biggest problem is employment. I got lucky and landed a great job that pays well. The second problem is cost of food as it highly depends on location. If I drive an hour south or east, I can reduce my food costs by around 30%. Not everyone has that ability because of the bigger problem. Gas price is the 3rd biggest problem, we’re on average 20-30C more per liter than outside the ring.

      Then there’s the actual places. So many have very poorly run municipal governments that are full of the dumbest motherfuckers around who sink entire budgets into poorly thought out capital projects and raise taxes for decades after. Poor tax enforcement so that there are many properties with years in outstanding tax debt that doesn’t get collected, which leads to even larger budget shortfalls and more tax increases. Every now and then I’ll see a tax sale listed for $20k+ because the owner died and no remaining family could afford to claim the property because it the outstanding tax debt.

      This is why I want to move into the bush where I have no neighbours, because at least the miniscule tax burden is less of a slap in the face when I look outside and see nothing coming back from it.

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    The worst part is that there really is a lot of habitable land but it would require employers to make a big push for remote jobs (wink wink federal and provincial governments)

    Sure winter is colder up north but even 50km North of the major city centers the land is empty…

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      I mean, there’s lots of land for the cities to continue sprawling into as well, at least in the west, not to mention tear-downs and brownfields for infill. The bottleneck is actually just building stuff.

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        Sure, but we need to have people on our territory as well… And let’s be realistic, most people want space and it’s beneficial to people’s mental health to not be stuck in super dense living conditions… More small cities with all services available would be a great thing (I’m saying that as a person living in a small city of 7k with all services available).

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          Sure, but we need to have people on our territory as well…

          Why? Most of the stuff it does that’s useful works as well, or better, in isolation. Trees and crops growing, and nature being spectacular, mainly.

          And let’s be realistic, most people want space and it’s beneficial to people’s mental health to not be stuck in super dense living conditions

          I mentioned sprawl, so that does still leave room for more low density.

          That being said, I don’t know that it is universally better for mental health. If by “super dense” you mean Kowloon city, sure, but lots of people live in apartments or townhouses and are fine with it. Conversely, not everyone enjoys yardwork, and if you have a single home with a yard you need to do that, unless you’re okay with landscaping in the form of wasps and skunks living in a dense patch of possibly-invasive weeds.

          More small cities with all services available would be a great thing (I’m saying that as a person living in a small city of 7k with all services available).

          Eh. It works for some people, but maybe you need something - anything - somewhat niche. Career, hobby, social, health…

          Gay? You’re mostly fucked. Need a specialist? Fucked. Into reenacting Roman battles? Fucked. Want a job besides welder at the local shop, trades or low-level retail? Fucked. Although I guess remote work would fix some of that. Want to buy something at night? Fucked.

          You’re covered if all you want is groceries, fast food, booze and (shortages aside) a family doctor, but as someone from an even smaller place, it’s very limiting and young people tend to leave.

          Also, that many small cities would be a bit of a transport problem. You basically couldn’t have freeways; it would be all local highways. Where would you put the big airports? Would they have their own town? Without those you get to take the scenic route 1000km+ to whatever or whoever you need to see in person. Or charter a private plane, I guess.

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    90% of the poutine is within 50 miles of the US border. What would they survive on up there?

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    Once global warming is finished, you just wait.

    Canada’s going to be laughing at the rest of the world in their tropical paradise. All those beaches.

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      This is how we get right-wing patriots to care about global warming. ‘not only will Canada still be bigger than us, they’ll have better resorts’

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      We just have wait for the last forests to burn down.

      Cough any day now cough. Why do my eyes burn?

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    With the way climate change is going, we may soon have access to the virgin lands up north. RIP, but also yay, but also RIP…

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    Edmonton (that moderate city on the western side, just past the rockies) gets to -50°C in the dead of winter for about two weeks.

    Some years we get snow for 5-6 months (global warming is fixing that) .

    You move more north if you want to. Im fucking good

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      A lot of that is warmer or equal to Edmonton

      We could settle a lot more but it deflates housing values and takes money/business away from the places that are settled

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        Wait, so are there regs or something preventing more housing development? I thought this was a joke about it being obviously too cold up there.

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          There are zoning issues but the infrastructure is done by the government or in this case not done

          In Northern Ontario the infrastructure is struggling as is because the current premier took the money from the maintenance budget and put it into Toronto ahead of the last election to try to get more votes

          Ontario went to municipalities around Toronto and told them they need to add x number of houses but never touched the north

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      Resource extraction. Lots of mining, oil further west, logging everywhere south of the arctic circle

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          “BWAHAHAHAHA! And then they said that the earth isn’t for me to ruin and extract every scrap from so I can buy more private islands! Can you believe that nonsense?”

          -Richfuck Ownerson

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          Pretty much. White people didn’t move up there en mass because there was no farmland. That doesn’t mean we don’t show up when there’s something of actual intrinsic value, though. Like the diamonds around Yellowknife, which is the one thing in the North you could call a city.

          Up on the arctic coast it’s like the Europeans never arrived, if you imagine they developed rifles and skidoos independently.

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      It’s full of bugs and terrible soil, also looks bigger than it is due to map distortions

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      Hopefully nothing. Hopefully they continue to fuck off and let nature exist unraped up there.