• protist@mander.xyz
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    No one was trying to “force Biden.” Biden was the candidate. No one ran against him. The only person who had control over whether he decided to bow out was Biden himself. As long as he was the candidate, fuck yes I’m going to be all-in on Biden, because the alternative is Trump. That doesn’t prevent me from simultaneously observing reality and airing my concerns about his abilities to the party. The second he dropped out, every “Blue MAGA” you’re on about breathed a sigh of relief and lined up behind Harris, demonstrating how what you’re describing isn’t even remotely comparable to “MAGA.”

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      I get what you’re coming from, but people did run against him. It’s just they weren’t taken seriously because usually an incumbent is considered the de facto candidate for a party in most cases.

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        No one with a snowball’s chance in hell of winning any primary, even if there were no incumbent. There were no realistic candidates in the primary besides Biden, and he beat all those candidates handily regardless

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          I think you’re crazy if you think no one had a chance even if Biden weren’t an incumbent.

          Part of the reason there were so few realistic candidates is because he was the incumbent. Both because of tradition and because of the momentum being an incumbent gives him.

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            Dean Phillips, Marianne Williamson, and Jason Palmer. Tell me which one would’ve won lmao

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              I’m really annoyed that Marianne Williamson is so… kooky. I’ve so far only seen good policy ideas from her, but I just don’t think she has good judgment based on her beliefs. I don’t need to vote for an atheist, but I can’t get behind her level of magical thinking.

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        Blue MAGA is a word the MAGAs made up because MAGA is a cuss word now. Don’t spread their word just because you’re upset at politics. None of this is new.

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          It’s the term Republicans use because they assume that Democrats are just as hard for their candidate as they are for their own. They think that their fanaticism is normal.

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          Waah so they willingly bought into the maga cult, kept up the whole ideology, just to try to smear normal people with their own cult name??? Like how little self awareness do they even have? How do theses people function?

          That is just… So. Fucking. Wierd.

          Like i can only think that they have sever chronic substance problems to maintain such a reasoning.

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          No, actually, its been around since 2017.

          Your ignorance doesn’t mean shit.

          There are plenty of this platform right here objectively are blue MAGA, and were insisting we run a candidate that was absolutely floundering, with almost no public support.

          It was Blue MAGA forcing Joe Biden upon us and insisting there was no better way. And if it was you doing that, guess what?

          Its a real thing.

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            What does the year matter? I didn’t say they just came up with it. Use your own words, don’t borrow them from morons.

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            They’re Anti-MAGA and Pro democracy, that’s why they would vote everyone that isn’t a MAGA Fascist. It doesn’t make them blue extremists.

            How many of those people do you see calling for Biden to come back?

            How many people do you see Biden calling a god?

            How many people do you see wearing diapers in the name of Biden?

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                What are they then in your opinion, anti democratic?

                What is trumps camp, pro democracy?

                Laughable, indeed.

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        What from what I said is “rewriting the past?” I lived it, my man. I was there lol