• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Do that many people in Israel really support this?

    I guess Lemmy doesn’t have a big enough Israeli community to answer that, but I have a hard time picturing an analogue for this in other countries.

    • Angry_Autist (he/him)@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      I would think they detest the act, but they would argue it wasn’t rape because legally only a citizen can be raped and that the victims were traumatized repeatedly weren’t citizens.

      And they will be angry at you for making them think about it.

    • Linkerbaan@lemmy.worldOP
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      3 months ago

      As the conversation in the Knesset I’ve linked below proves, it’s not a fringe opinion in israel.

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      3 months ago

      Israeli here.

      There is enough bad blood between us and the Palestinians for many people to approve the rape, and after 7.10 they feel confident enough to vocally support it. At least - the mob on the street and in social media. The more subtle right-wingers (as you may have guessed - this became a partisan thing) don’t condone the rape itself - but they have a few "but"s:

      • They say that the soldiers are heroes that operate in harsh conditions, and we should be more forgiving toward such “venting”.
      • They say that we should be more skeptic toward the testimonies of the released Palestinians prisoners, and should not start investigations based on their complains.
      • They say that the arrest of the soldiers could have been done in a more peaceful and gentle way. (personal opinion - this argument is the only one that has some merit to it. Doesn’t justify the rampage though)
      • The rampage against the arrest is a legitimate democratic protest, and the establishment is only handling it with extreme prejudice because it’s a right-wing thing.
      • brucethemoose@lemmy.world
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        3 months ago

        Abu Ghraib

        Did US citizens really support it though?

        I feel like a lot of US warcrimes are done with the public being ignorant of them, while what’s remarkable to me is that so many people in Israel seem to support it.