• tatterdemalion@programming.dev
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        6
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        Only because IPv6 and self-hosting are not mainstream yet. But if it were commonplace for everyone’s home to have something as simple as a public file server or SSH server, then this problem would be trivialized.

        • dan@upvote.au
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Opera tried to make self-hosting mainstream back in 2009 with Opera Unite, but regular people just weren’t interested. It was a web server built in to the browser, which had a few apps like a whiteboard, a way to write notes, file transfers, etc.

          Also, IPv6 is already mainstream in some countries. In the USA, several of the mobile networks are IPv6-only, using 464XLAT to allow connections to legacy IPv4-only servers. Comcast/Xfinity was also the first ISP to roll out IPv6 at a wide scale, and the majority of their customers had IPv6 connectivity way back in 2014 or so.

          Globally, around 50% of traffic to Google and 60% of traffic to Facebook are using IPv6.

    • renzev@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      17
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      It’s pretty good. Definitely better then self-hosted stuff like nextcloud, because you don’t need to maintain your own server. But sometimes it takes a while for two hosts to discover each other on the same local area network.

      • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        I think they’re both good for different use-cases. I use nextcloud myself on a truenas system. I sync things like my pictures to nextcloud, and delete them from my phone after I’ve sorted them into the correct folders.

        This way my data isn’t clogging up my phone and other things, is still available from anywhere (as long as my home internet doesn’t go down), and it’s still safely stored on redundant storage.

        This does take a bit more setting up than something like syncthing, though it wasn’t very difficult at all. Basically install the docker image, tell it where my data goes, and set up a new dns record if you want it publicly accessible. I personally run it through a zerotier network so I don’t have to do that.

        • GFGJewbacca@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          2
          ·
          2 months ago

          I like Nextcloud on my TrueNAS scale setup, but for photos I’ve started using Immich. It works extremely well, and does automatic backups of specific folders from your phone. The interface looks nice too.

          • Ghoelian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            1 month ago

            I’m actually using Photoprism on the same truenas system to view my photos, I just already had nextcloud for the rest of my files, so I’m using that to upload. They point to the same datasets, so they share the image data. I believe photoprism is pretty similar to immich, but i haven’t used immich myself.

  • JackbyDev@programming.dev
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    44
    ·
    2 months ago

    The amount of times sending myself an email is still the quickest thing is insane. Sure I could try to use notion or keep to send myself some random string of text but am I logged in on my desktop? Idk. Just use email.

    Also there are so many things like air drop, nfc, etc, but so many of them are so specific to certain devices. Maybe one day we’ll figure this out lol

  • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    39
    ·
    2 months ago

    Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer? It’s this not a thing anymore?

    Why the extra step of writing it to thumb drive?

    • Todd Bonzalez@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      22
      ·
      2 months ago

      These are the people who take screenshots with their phone cameras.

      OP is just revealing that they don’t understand device-to-device file transfers.

      • olutukko@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 months ago

        remember when it was somehow trendy to take a picture with snapchat and the screenshot it to it shows the tools on right and post that on instagram? that shit was stupid as hell

      • explodicle@sh.itjust.works
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        I still do that all the time. I work with a bunch of different computers and it’s easier than sending a file or writing the info down.

        I get that there’s device to device file transfers, but it’s slower, and other employees would undoubtedly fill my phone with garbage screenshots, if not virus furry porn.

    • Emerald@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      2 months ago

      Can you not just plug your phone into your computer, and then use your computer’s file manager to drag it from your phone to your computer?

      That’s right, you cannot. Well, sometimes you can. MTP is quite an unreliable technology, at least for Linux users. Sometimes you’ll plug in a device and it’ll work fine, other times it won’t even show up.

      P.S. and yes I have enabled MTP on the android device

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        2 months ago

        Idk
        I just plugged my pixel into my Ubuntu laptop, and tapped on the USB charging notification on my phone, selected “more options” and changed the selection from “no data transfer” to “move files”.

        Then my Ubuntu file viewer could see all my files. Or at least a lot of them.

    • Matriks404@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      2 months ago

      Except that if you connect your phone to a computer using USB, it will transfer files using MTP and it’s pain in the ass, as it’s slow and unreliable. Sending files over Bluetooth is better (but not much) over using USB connection.

      • PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        No phone allow which? Writing to a thumb drive (I believe that) or connecting to a computer directly?

        Just tried connecting my pixel 7 to my Ubuntu laptop and it worked. Im pretty sure I’ve done it with windows too, on previous pixel phones.

  • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    35
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    IR data connection.

    Print out on paper & scan it into the computer.

    Copy the data into the computer in binary with an electron gun directly to SSD.

    Recreate the data from scratch.

    Install desktop os onto your phone & use it as your main rig to eliminate the need to transfer data in the first place.

    Use an USB cable to connect the phone to a floppy drive & copy the data to floppy discs. And enjoy the asmr sounds as you do so.

    Bluetooth if all else fails, but using a2dp dial-up frequencies.

    Accept that there is no convenient way to transfer data & just live without it.

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        2 months ago

        Oh, that’s a good one, high tech, no need for extra data conversion on the PC, works for transferring videos as well :D

      • Evil_Shrubbery@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        edit-2
        2 months ago

        … oh, TIL.

        Outside of regular simple-command remotes I only ever used IR data transfer between my PC and Nokia 3650 (bcs the proprietary connector had shitty contacts).

        And it was slower than any of other methods previously listed.
        (I don’t actually remember, but less than 100kbps I think, about half the theoretical max iirc, some of which was the phone and the memory cards fault too)

  • Crafter72@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    https://github.com/localsend/localsend

    I used localsend on desktop, laptop and my phones to sync stuffs between OSes and phones. What I likes is that it support multiplatform out of the box and works flawlessly between Windows, Android and Linux distros (tried both on Ubuntu, and LM without problem). It’s just SHAREit without any stupid weird stuffs on it.

  • kamen@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    edit-2
    2 months ago

    Syncthing ftw. As soon as I plug my phone into a charger, it starts syncing everything to my NAS. Even if it’s not charging, I can override the rule and force it to sync.

  • Funbreaker@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    20
    ·
    2 months ago

    I don’t even need a double-sided boi because my dumb ass got lucky enough to pick a cheapo laptop with a USB-C port. The little sandisk drive is probably one my best investments into the phone besides the case.

    • lud@lemm.ee
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      5
      ·
      2 months ago

      Pretty much all laptops have USB C these days.

      I also got a USB C flash drive and it’s indeed incredibly convenient.

        • lud@lemm.ee
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          2 months ago

          Yeah, most motherboards from the last 5-6 years (or maybe even longer) likely have USB-C.

          Newer motherboards usually have an internal port so that you can get a USB-C front panel connector. I recently replaced my case for primarily that reason.

    • Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      Nextcloud “Carnet” is the solution I had been waiting for for years. Instant uploads to my instance, I can access the files from any computer. Boom.

    • marcos@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      2 months ago

      KDE connect only works painlessly on phones that allow you to use your files… As weird as it is, that’s not most of them.

      But you can still move them around somehow and force it to work. Also, the same works for syncthing. USB drivers haven’t been the easiest option for a while.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    15
    ·
    2 months ago

    One thing that really got me while working on computers and networking right as LAN networks became a thing in the late 90s and early 2K years was… I’m connected to this switch, and so are they. Why do I need to burn a CD/use an external hard drive (later a flash drive), to move data?

    Took me a while to figure out SMB/cifs, and when I did … Game changer. Since then I’ve also learned all I can about storage, networking and file sharing. Most of my USB drives sit on my desk and don’t get touched. I couldn’t tell you what’s on most of them. I’ve picked up a few thinking that I’ll use it, but the most useful thing I’ve done with flash drives is to move data between computers when upgrading other people’s computers. For me, I just make sure everything is backed up/synced to my local NAS, wipe the system and reinstall without a care in the world.

        • Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          edit-2
          2 months ago

          Its a CM3588 NAS board from friendly elec running openmedia vault Debian 11 with home-manager for nixpkgs. I run nextcloud for backing up my phone storage every night. And have SMB share setup for all my laser cuting files! Originally all my files for my business where running off a 4tb USB HDD which was starting to fail. And yes there was no backups. So after I made a little money selling my laser cut goods. Bought the CM3588 nas board with 2 one terabyte sata m.2 ssd’s which are in raid 1 for redudancy. Also have a off site backup on the computer that runs the laser. And another tid bit all the computers I use are exclusively linux. The computer that runs the laser is zoron OS. My main rig runs nixos, my LAN gaming machine runs gentoo aswell as the laptop where I do most of the fianaces and designing. The laptop is a t440p which is librebooted and runs gentoo :D.

          Hope that’s enough detail!! Lmao