• shalafi@lemmy.worldEnglish
    202·
    5 months ago

    Perpetual victim. Seen it. I call it Pretty Girl Syndrome.

    “Everyone treats me like gold because I’m beautiful!”

    And then she’s shocked when anyone tells her to get bent.

    • drolex@sopuli.xyz
      79·
      5 months ago

      Finally some fad I can identify with, except I’m not a girl. And I’m not pretty. And I’m not Syndrome. But everybody treats me like gold (I’m heavy and malleable)

    • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
      56·
      5 months ago

      It really is a thing. I went on one date with this super attractive redhead, and we were planning a second date, but I canceled because the time we were supposed to have together she whittled down (on the morning of) to just a couple hours she could pencil me in for. She got annoyed with me and became passive-aggressive because I didn’t want to drive for two and a half hours round trip to her town for a two-hour date.

      I didn’t like the passive-aggression and explained that to her kindly. She got even more passive-aggressive at that. I told her I was no longer interested in dating her. She went ballistic, shit-talking me in a mutual FB group we were a part of, stalking my posts and comments on there so that she could add heart reacts to every single one before I blocked her.

      I really should have known better than to try to date her as the first time I got to know her was when I was on vacation with my girlfriend in New Orleans where this woman and her husband were celebrating their one-year anniversary and we all met up for dinner, and she later told me they had a knock-down, drag-out fight in their hotel room.

        • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
          17·
          5 months ago

          Lol, I put that last bit there without explanation for the shock value because the people seem to love this. But yes, we were all polyamorous. She was married, I had a girlfriend and a nesting partner, my girlfriend had a boyfriend who had a wife who wanted to date me (I declined because she practiced polyamory unethically), and my nesting partner had a girlfriend.

          The woman I was interested in dating, I knew she didn’t have a whole lot of free time…neither did I truth be told…but I turned her down not because she had other partners and a busy life but because of the way she responded to me. It was basically, “Um, how dare you cancel plans with me after I took an extra morning shift on the day of our date leaving you with only two hours and with you having to do all the driving for over two and a half hours during rush hour traffic!” She was so used to people falling all over her because of how attractive she was, and it was really off-putting.

        • Entropywins@lemmy.world
          22·
          5 months ago

          I’ve had a girlfriend and I’ve had a wife, but riddle me this…when I next go on a date I won’t be cheating on anyone. How is that possible???

        • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
          12·
          5 months ago

          Indeed. We are all polyamorous, and it’s quite normal in our circles. I remember one time my nesting partner and I had a party at the house we were sharing, and there was a daisy chain of eight people comprising seven consecutive dyadic relationships in attendance (Stephanie <–> Troy <–> Chastity <–> John <–> Anna <–> Me <–> Esther <–> Amanda), and it was really great! Everyone was just enjoying each other’s company, having drinks, talking about this and that, feeling compersion…it’s a nice way to be when you’re wired for it!

            • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
              5·
              5 months ago

              Right on, it’s not for everyone. I’m not wired for monogamy, it turns out. I practiced monogamy with my wife for 13 years until I was 37 year old, but I never felt “whole”, I suppose is the best way to describe it. We were polyamorous together for two years before separating and divorcing pro sé (not to do with the relationship style at all, we just had outgrown our relationship).

              Now - ten years later - I couldn’t imagine ever choosing to be monogamous again. As I like to say, I never again want to presume any semblance of control over any partner’s absolute right to seek out joy and fulfillment by forming however many ethical and consensual relationships they wish, of whatever style they wish, with whomever they wish, for as long as they wish, and I insist upon the same right for myself.

              • AwkwardLookMonkeyPuppet@lemmy.worldEnglish
                5·
                5 months ago

                If it works for you, then right on. Everyone I know who has had a threesome with their monogamous partner ended up regretting it. It led to distrust, feelings of inadequacy, and ultimately the end of those relationships. So, I don’t ever want to try it. My wife is enough for me, and I’m not interested in anything that would jeopardize our relationship. I suppose your situation is a little different, but ultimately I know that arraignment would never work for me or my wife.

                • radicalautonomy@lemmy.world
                  6·
                  5 months ago

                  It’s good when you and your partner know yourselves and each other. I always advocate for purposeful relationships of all kinds, especially monogamy. It has always seemed like monogamous people in general make a whole lot of assumptions; there’s a unwritten “rulebook” that everyone is supposed to know by heart and follow, but each person understands it just a little bit differently, so arguments come about because of it related to things like what constitutes cheating (e.g. being attracted to anyone else, dreaming sexually about someone else, harmless flirting, etc.). If everyone engaged in conversations early on in a relationship about what they want and need out of a partner what they are willing and able to give back, and what their deal breakers are, then such incompatibilities can be addressed much earlier and compromises made.

                  And yes, my situation is very different. Monogamous-wired people who have threesomes usually haven’t done the emotional work beforehand. They try to convince themselves that they are emotionally prepared for the aftermath because they are excited about getting some strange, but when the third person is more interested in one of them than the other in the moment, the other partner starts to feel jealousy and wants to shut it down. Or maybe one partner ones to do it a second time with the same third partner and the other doesn’t because they worry that their partner is developing feelings. Or any number of things.

                  With the people in my circles, we all have practiced polyamory for many years. Sometimes we experience jealousy (I don’t), we have done the emotional work to identify it, put a name to it, dig deep to determine the cause of the discomfort, take ownership of the emotion, let our partner know about the feeling, and ask them for what we need as a means of support without imposing on their boundaries or attempting to force them into changing how they engage in their relationships with others.

  • notaviking@lemmy.world
    24·
    5 months ago

    Ok just my opinion, so clearly there might be some flack from the community, but I am glad she writes articles like this. It seems to be her form of outlet to process her emotions, decisions and their consequences. I think that is what these articles are an account from a person who knows they are flawed, knows they do not make the right decisions but are making decisions that are against common sense and she is documenting it as she goes. It is fascinating and past the schadenfreude that her consequences have given, the handful of articles I have quickly glanced she seems to be brutality honest discussion about her decisions and her struggles with the consequences.

    • funkless_eck@sh.itjust.works
      5·
      5 months ago

      reading the cheating article, it’s pretty clear these guys were gonna divorce anyway.

      It’s a mistake not to separate and tell your kids before meeting someone else, but from reading what happened it looks like their marriage deteriorated to the point of completely ignoring each others existence, she finds happiness in someone who actually likes her being around, gives her the push to finalize the divorce.

      Understandable perhaps but not exactly the right thing to do.

      The way the meme is edited it makes it look like the husband found out and kicked her out and she deserves to be poor, reading the articles it looks like the classic case of “Mother drops everything for family, Father has to be forced to continue child support after divorce and does everything he can to avoid it.”

      Which, honestly, I support. Everyone knows that’s part of marriage now, if you can’t abide by the terms of the contract, don’t enter into the legally binding partnership.

  • ShaunaTheDead@kbin.social
    22·
    5 months ago

    Just for some pretext here: I’m not trying to defend this woman because I know nothing about her.

    That being said and just for everyone’s information, there is a scenario in which what she said is logical and fair.

    It used to be that women were not allowed to have careers and some people still choose to practice that. So the women agree when entering into the marriage that they’ll be homemakers and the husband will earn money and take care of her. If the husband doesn’t keep up his end of the duties in that arrangement and they wind up being divorced then she now has no means to provide for herself. This is why alimony was initially created, so that women who were forced (or in the modern day chose) to be homemakers weren’t absolutely fucked in the case of divorce.

    Again, I’m not saying that’s what’s happening here, I have no idea, but I just wanted to provide some potential context because I find a lot of talk about alimony and divorce online often just dumps on women as being greedy and that’s just not fair in every situation.

    I gotta say though, it sure looks that way in this situation, especially with her talking about cheating on her husband, but again, who knows, maybe he’s not holding up his end, maybe he’s physically or emotionally abusive, we just don’t know.

    • SmoothLiquidation@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      5 months ago

      It’s pretty obvious she has a career writing magazine articles complaining about her life, so she should have some sort of income, and alimony shouldn’t count. Never mind all of the infidelity that everyone else is mentioning.

    • OsrsNeedsF2P@lemmy.ml
      7·
      5 months ago

      Even if she was a stay-at-home wife, then she would get half the husband’s assets. So she shouldn’t be dirt poor

    • Arondeus@lemmy.ca
      6·
      5 months ago

      Its sad that your perfectly logical and objective comment got downvoted. Thanks for speaking truth that people dont want to hear.

      • zaph@sh.itjust.works
        15·
        5 months ago

        I cheated on my spouse

        There’s really just no way of knowing what could have happened to end their relationship. Truly one of the worlds biggest puzzles.

      • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world
        13·
        5 months ago

        We are totally ok with that truth. It just isn’t relevant here. Especially given the 4th headline “I divorced my husband because I couldn’t trust him with my money”. It seems like her financial troubles and his lack of financial troubles had nothing to do with the state of their finances during the marriage. And if alimony is involved at all, it would be a contributor to her post divorce financial problems, as it sounds like she would be the one paying if there is any.