• archomrade [he/him]@midwest.socialOP
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    6 months ago

    Certainly, but supporting a genocide is a pretty high level of evil, I imagine a lot of people are looking at that and thinking ‘hmm not worth it’.

    That’s why it’s probably important to make that evil percentage trend down a bit, i reckon

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      6 months ago

      So what is the difference between your position and my position with regards to this question:

      How many people do you think will vote for even a lesser evil?

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        6 months ago

        I’m pushing to make the lesser evil less evil. You’re pushing for people to hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil without even demanding they try being a little less evil.

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            Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.

            Seems pretty important if you know, you care about defeating Trump.

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              Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.

              It would be great if Biden changed his view. I hope that the changing views of the American electorate on Israel and the protests relevant to that change pressure him into doing so.

              But when you say “Well, it’s actually completely okay if you decide that allowing fascism is the better choice if Biden doesn’t change his mind😊”, what you’re saying is “I don’t give a fuck how many Palestinians OR American minorities die, and I don’t care if I ever get a say in governance again.”

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                I mean you clearly don’t give a fuck about how many Palestinians die. You’ve been arguing a position that sets Trump up to win.

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                  6 months ago

                  Sorry that I want to minimize the number of Palestinians who die, while you would prefer to maximize the number.

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                    No you don’t dude.

                    You refuse to take your criticism to Biden and expect voters to just accept genocide.

                    You are an apologist for genocide.

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              Then your choices are reduced to “Allow politicians to know that your ‘demands’ mean nothing because they have no consequences” or “Let the fascist win”.

              By the way, really loving the “LOL let’s just wing it” attitude towards the potential murder of millions more people. Makes me feel real warm and fuzzy inside to know that the pro-minority attitude of the online left isn’t even deep enough to be performative.

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                  You’re eating genocide either way, unless you have a fucking miracle candidate up your sleeve you’ve been hiding 'til now. The difference is, you’ve chosen the “All Trump Can Eat” genocide buffet.