I’m pushing to make the lesser evil less evil. You’re pushing for people to hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil without even demanding they try being a little less evil.
Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.
It would be great if Biden changed his view. I hope that the changing views of the American electorate on Israel and the protests relevant to that change pressure him into doing so.
But when you say “Well, it’s actually completely okay if you decide that allowing fascism is the better choice if Biden doesn’t change his mind😊”, what you’re saying is “I don’t give a fuck how many Palestinians OR American minorities die, and I don’t care if I ever get a say in governance again.”
Oh yes, just the other day I was offered a trip to the White House to discuss my policy positions with Biden, and I stood up on my one good leg, and firmly said “NO! I will NOT go and take my criticism to BIDEN HIMSELF! If he wants to hear my criticism of him, he can log into Lemmy like everyone else!”
and expect voters to just accept genocide.
No, actually, I expect voters to vote against “more genocide”, something that seems extremely controversial to people who want MORE genocide, for reasons that Definitely Make Sense From A Left-Wing Perspective. I guess more dead minorities is… left praxis…?
Then your choices are reduced to “Allow politicians to know that your ‘demands’ mean nothing because they have no consequences” or “Let the fascist win”.
By the way, really loving the “LOL let’s just wing it” attitude towards the potential murder of millions more people. Makes me feel real warm and fuzzy inside to know that the pro-minority attitude of the online left isn’t even deep enough to be performative.
You’re eating genocide either way, unless you have a fucking miracle candidate up your sleeve you’ve been hiding 'til now. The difference is, you’ve chosen the “All Trump Can Eat” genocide buffet.
We only have to eat genocide if we choose not to send the food back
What was your plan to send the food back and ensure that the genocide buffet wasn’t returned in response, again? Was it “We’re going to say ‘no’ very firmly despite 48 of the 100 people at this table eagerly voting for the genocide buffet”?
I’m pushing to make the lesser evil less evil. You’re pushing for people to hold their nose and vote for the lesser evil without even demanding they try being a little less evil.
Okay. Say Biden refuses your demand. What then?
Maybe you should advocate that Biden not refuse that demand.
Seems pretty important if you know, you care about defeating Trump.
It would be great if Biden changed his view. I hope that the changing views of the American electorate on Israel and the protests relevant to that change pressure him into doing so.
But when you say “Well, it’s actually completely okay if you decide that allowing fascism is the better choice if Biden doesn’t change his mind😊”, what you’re saying is “I don’t give a fuck how many Palestinians OR American minorities die, and I don’t care if I ever get a say in governance again.”
I mean you clearly don’t give a fuck about how many Palestinians die. You’ve been arguing a position that sets Trump up to win.
Sorry that I want to minimize the number of Palestinians who die, while you would prefer to maximize the number.
No you don’t dude.
You refuse to take your criticism to Biden and expect voters to just accept genocide.
You are an apologist for genocide.
Oh yes, just the other day I was offered a trip to the White House to discuss my policy positions with Biden, and I stood up on my one good leg, and firmly said “NO! I will NOT go and take my criticism to BIDEN HIMSELF! If he wants to hear my criticism of him, he can log into Lemmy like everyone else!”
No, actually, I expect voters to vote against “more genocide”, something that seems extremely controversial to people who want MORE genocide, for reasons that Definitely Make Sense From A Left-Wing Perspective. I guess more dead minorities is… left praxis…?
Voters aren’t going to move their position on this. Only the candidate can.
I guess we’ll all have to figure something else out then, huh?
Then your choices are reduced to “Allow politicians to know that your ‘demands’ mean nothing because they have no consequences” or “Let the fascist win”.
By the way, really loving the “LOL let’s just wing it” attitude towards the potential murder of millions more people. Makes me feel real warm and fuzzy inside to know that the pro-minority attitude of the online left isn’t even deep enough to be performative.
Probably as much as it warms my heart that the online centrist attitude is “I guess i’m eating genocide today shrug”
You’re eating genocide either way, unless you have a fucking miracle candidate up your sleeve you’ve been hiding 'til now. The difference is, you’ve chosen the “All Trump Can Eat” genocide buffet.
Bro, YOU are the Trump supporter here.
“The BIDEN supporter is the TRUMP supporter!”
Yes, picking the one of the two realistic candidates means I actually support the OTHER realistic (but much more vile) candidate. You caught me.
Biden isn’t a realistic candidate if he doesn’t shift on Palestine.
He’s been polling below Trump for over a year. He suffers a 12 point polling error spread.
Biden isn’t a viable candidate right now. Its because of his position on Palestine.
We only have to eat genocide if we choose not to send the food back
I can tell what your appetite is by the fact you’re not even trying
What was your plan to send the food back and ensure that the genocide buffet wasn’t returned in response, again? Was it “We’re going to say ‘no’ very firmly despite 48 of the 100 people at this table eagerly voting for the genocide buffet”?
Frankly i’m hoping the chef cares enough about that possibility that he serves up something different
I really think it’s the customers basic obligation to at least say ‘whatever the chef recommends BUT ABSOLUTELY NO GENOCIDE’
If you’re not at least saying that idk what to tell you, you’re probably gonna get genocide