• Catoblepas
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    Jonathan Haidt

    Lmao, people are still taking this grifter seriously? Dude writes a book crying about trigger warnings, safe spaces, and statues of slavers being torn down and somehow I’m supposed to believe that actually he’s right this time?

    It’s a pity I have a conscience because telling people what they want to hear seems to be lucrative.

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      Jonathan Haidt

      And his theory of morality seems to be just an elaborate justification for how conservative viewpoints are equally valid (or even more valid, because it claims that conservatives care about all foundations equally, rather than some of them), or a long-winded “very fine people, on both sides”.

      And the additional foundations that conservatives care about are all shitty reasons to support something (loyalty, authority, sanctity).

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        because it claims that conservatives care about all foundations equally, rather than some of them)

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        Has this person actually met any conservatives? Because it sounds like he hasn’t.

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      I knew I was right not to trust him. Think hard about why a clown like him wants to restrict Kid’s access to information

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      Parents were failing to do better when I was a kid and we didn’t yet have home computers. GenX were notoriously latchkey kids.

      If we want parents to do better, we have to reduce the hours of the workweek, say, to below twenty so they have energy and time to parent.

      And create community units to replace the extended family. The proverbial village.

      That said, if the kids are crazy, the ongoing lack of care and intergenerational mental illness (since before the Silent generation) are to blame, not screen time. But pundits don’t really want to look at that.

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    Parent your kids instead of constantly demanding the government do something. Obviously it’s hard, two parents working/single parent working full-time, everything is expensive, shit sucks. But you also signed up to have kids. At least try to do them a solid and raise them well, and stop asking the already too large government to try to come up with some more shit.

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      This is just as lopsided and reactionist of a response as government regulated screen time. We already regulate lots of things for children/minors that could be called unnecessary under the umbrella of ‘parent better.’ Labor, tobacco/alcohol, gambling, etc.

      The answer and discussion are nuanced and lumping them into a black and white choose a side debate isn’t reality.

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      We can have the government do something and have people raise their kids, it’s not either/or.

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    https://archive.ph/MB1e0

    My kid is almost 12, iPad only. I do worry about her overall time but most of her time is spent in this huge group chat with all her friends on Discord. We had landlines pre-voicemail when I was growing up and our chat time was limited by that. Her grades are good, room stays clean, and she’s in two extracurricular activities. 4 hours of chatting with her friends is ok by me, it’s at least social interaction, not spending hours sucked into YT or TikTok algorithms. She also has kids messenger. Nothing else.

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      That’s the problem that everyone shouting “parents need to parent better” here is ignoring.

      If you cut off access to the group chat, her friends are not going to call her daily on your landline (that maybe you don’t have) to exchange gossips. What will happen is that she’ll be out of the loop, isolated from the group. When they’re planning an afternoon out they might forget to tell her.

      You can’t make your kids live in a 90’s bubble, because when we were kids in the 90’s we had friends living like us. Cut off your kid from messenging and you cut them from their friends and isolate to them from their age class.

      That’s absolutely not good for them, and it’s not good parenting.

      (Not talking about you comment parent BTW, your parenting is fine, I’m just responding to your comment to address all those saying it’s just parents’ fault)

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        Yes this is the fine line you have to walk. I’ve cut off tik tok, limited many others to 1h a day, but you can’t cut them off completely or you cut off their access to their friends.

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      I guess the one thing that could be better is actually seeing her friends, but that depends a lot on where you live. Being French, all my friends lived within 10 minutes walking distance so we would see each other basically every single day after school ! I think that was a lot better than being on discord, I wish everyone had the opportunity to do that too. It was a lot of fun !

      ( Also, we played video games like constantly 😆 so I wouldn’t be shocked if our screen time went over 4 hours quite regularly, but at least everyone was in the same room and we also could go play in the garden and stuff. Walkable cities are real, and they’re real awesome, having always lived in one myself. )

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          Honestly, walking to and back from primary school with my friends was my favorite part of the day. It’s sad to know it’s such a rare experience.

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    So long as our collective societies refuse to provide adequate care and civil priority for our kids, this will be a moral panic as serious as Satan in rock-and-roll. And we should make sure anyone who takes this seriously never lives it down, like the ones who insisted Marilyn Manson caused the Columnine shootings.

    We still have parental advisory labels as a memorial to scared politicians and their naïve followers.

    We also still have children going hungry at like 20% in the US. I call shenanigans.

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    What are hoops that you chase with a stick doing to children? Demands grow to restrict kids access to hoops that you chase with a stick