• Zerush@lemmy.ml
    51·
    8 months ago

    Crap games apart (LOL is a good name for it), the only reason because Windows is better for games is that most games in the market are Windows only, no other reasons. But this is currently changing with more and more games also for Linux. Worst gaming platform is still Apple.

    Anyway, at least

    • Venator@lemmy.nz
      15·
      8 months ago

      And the reason a lot of games are made for windows: nvidia helps companies with testing and development support, but funnily enough they help with testing nvidia hardware, and only on Windows.

      I guess they only do Windows to try to keeo development costs of the drivers down? But I’m not sure.

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
        3·
        8 months ago

        Not entirely correct, the simple reason is called “money”. Windows is by far the most used platform in the world, because of this also the most potential users of the gaming industry. Linux has almost 100 different distros and much of these don’t accept other than opensource apps in its repository and only very few modern games are (2?..3?), there isn’t much more than FPS and arena shooters with graphics of 20 years ago, side scrollers and other with pixelgraphics, crappy RPG 2 D or with isometric view, few exceptions apart, like the above mencioned The Dark Mod, despite that it isn’t full OpenSource because of some non-free art assets which included and for this is tecnically only freeware and for sure for this, not in most of the repositories. Making games is a lot of work and there are not much idealistic game devs out there which will make a modern game for buy me a coffee. That is the main problem because Windows is still the best platform for games and not for tecnical reasons.

      • Riskable@programming.devEnglish
        2·
        8 months ago

        They’ll help you develop and test your AI stuff on Linux but not Windows (I don’t think… Completely different team of engineers).

        I’m wondering what will happen when loads of games have built-in generative AI… Will these two paths cross and finally give us Linux folks Nvidia (graphics) drivers that are actually good? 🤔

    • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      8 months ago

      If I ever get off my ass and make that game I am going to rub my nipples and respond every time a mac user sends in a support ticket asking why their game isn’t working with “because it’s a mac”

    • Hexagon@feddit.it
      60·
      8 months ago

      My pocket calculator: does not run anything

      Conclusion: my pocket calculator wins. Always

    • silliewous@feddit.nl
      20·
      8 months ago

      I thought all systemd haters would have died by now due to old age. At this rare chance, I have a question: How did it feel to live together with actual dinosaurs?

      • TheCheddarCheese@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        8 months ago

        Why do people hate systemd anyway? I’m not that tech-savvy but I’ve always used it and I don’t recall ever having a problem with it

        • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
          5·
          8 months ago

          I think it’s largely a combination of curmudgeons that hate change and people who are strict Unix ideologues. systemd, while being objectively better in many ways is a monolith that does more than one thing. This violates some of the Unix program philosophies (small programs that do one thing). The truth is that the script-based inits were terrible for dependency management, which is something that systemd explicitly addresses and is probably one of its greatest strengths, IMO.

          EDIT: Corrected capitalization.

          • msage@programming.dev
            2·
            8 months ago

            It’s the main strength, and for that it deserves praise.

            For the feature creep that goes into it, and everything hard requiring systemd stuff (way beyond just the init system) just to start, no thanks.

            • nickwitha_k (he/him)@lemmy.sdf.org
              1·
              8 months ago

              That’s very fair. Having managed system services for custom application stacks with hard dependencies on one another, that strength is worth it to me.

              I don’t mean to come across as saying that the Unix philosophy is wrong. Just horses for courses. Systems where there is a likelihood of interdependent daemons should probably consider systemd. Where that’s not an issue or complexity is low, more Unix-like inits can still be a solid choice because of their limited scoping and easy modification.

              • msage@programming.dev
                3·
                8 months ago

                Again, init system is OK.

                Suddenly logind, networkd, resolvd, timesyncd, and every other systemd subsystem is way too much inside the one supposed init system.

        • black0ut@pawb.social
          1·
          8 months ago

          It’s slow and heavy, and it does too many things. It’s a monolithic piece of code so big it’s getting too difficult to maintain, so it has more vulnerabilities than other alternatives. It’s also taking over the whole system, to the point where Linux systems will soon be Systemd/Linux instead of GNU/Linux.

          It’s also developed and funded mainly by Microsoft, which is also something people don’t really like. Microsoft are trying to make it similar to Windows in some ways, which makes it way more difficult to debug random errors.

          And it doesn’t follow the UNIX guidelines, which is just the cherry on top.

      • Bo7a@lemmy.ca
        7·
        8 months ago

        I finally gave up the hate and embraced the poeterring-ing a few years ago. Can confirm I de-aged by 15 years as a result.

    • unalivejoy@lemm.eeEnglish
      5·
      8 months ago

      Wasn’t a big reason some people don’t like systemd because it didn’t run on FreeBSD?

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      4·
      8 months ago

      OpenBSD loses because it’s permissively-licensed instead of copyleft.

      • black0ut@pawb.social
        2·
        8 months ago

        I run Void with runit.

        I’ve tried to completely avoid systemd, and so far I think I’ve managed. It’s still a pain in the ass, because a lot of software depends on it.

        As an upside, startup time on my old lappy went from 2+ minutes on barebones Arch with systemd to just under 40 seconds on Void with runit.

        • msage@programming.dev
          1·
          8 months ago

          I don’t even care about the boot times.

          Perhaps because I don’t use DEs my PCs boot up quickly, and servers aren’t supposed to be rebooted outside their maintenance windows. So why would I care about pArAlLeL bOoTiNg.

          Oh well, I’m just an old man yelling at clouds.

          • black0ut@pawb.social
            2·
            8 months ago

            The thing about parallel booting is it’s only faster in systems with lots of cores, and the overhead of the parallelized code is sometimes enough to negate the benefits in older processors.

            My machine is a Core 2 Duo lappy, which allows me to run most modern programs cheaply. However, it’s slow (even though I don’t use DEs either), and laptops are the kinds of computers you boot multiple times a day. That’s why I care about boot times. And in this case, you can see that booting with a parallelized init system is slower than booting with a “regular” one.

            Yeah, Systemd might be the new fad, but I still believe there are lots of things to learn from the simple init systems. After all, an init system should only focus on initializing a system, and it shouldn’t be as complex and complicated as Systemd is.

            I might be just another old man yelling at clouds. But hey, that makes two of us now.

            • msage@programming.dev
              1·
              8 months ago

              Yeah, I get you.

              Though perhaps in such use-case it would do better with sleep states than poweroffs.

  • macniel@feddit.de
    30·
    8 months ago

    Oh they already activated Vanguard for League of Legends? Because before that it could run under linux.

    • KptnAutismus@lemmy.world
      2·
      8 months ago

      i played a match and i don’t get it, that game is just boring.

      how do people actually play this?

      i have colleagues who gush over how they want everyone else to play it.

      it’s just so… stale

  • ColdWater@lemmy.ca
    19·
    8 months ago

    I really wanna switch to Linux so bad because of windows 10 support is ending soon and windows 11 suck ass I especially hate chatgpt and edge and boring desktop environment and sloppy navigation around the os and inconsistent design and everything else really, the only reason I use computer is games and a bit of documents editing but I lose half of my fps when I played on Linux which is a big deal when all I have is a potato laptop, hopefully by the time windows 10 ended support gaming on Linux will be at least 80% of the windows performance

    • grue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      25·
      8 months ago

      the only reason I use computer is games and a bit of documents editing but I lose half of my fps when I played on Linux which is a big deal when all I have is a potato laptop

      You might be using the wrong driver or something. Usually Linux has at least comparable framerates to Windows, if not faster.

    • Lumelore (She/her)English
      11·
      8 months ago

      I switched to Linux a few months ago after building a new computer as I didn’t feel like paying over $100 for an OS that has ads in the start menu and spammy popups.

      Almost all of my games work fine and don’t have any issues with lag. The exception is GTA V which doesn’t work at all and Sims 4 which works fine but EA’s launcher has given me a few issues.

      You shouldn’t have any issues with document editing or web browsing. In my experience printing actually works better on Linux than it did for me on Windows.

      If you want you could dual boot or keep an old windows system around to play games that aren’t working on Linux, but in my experience, most games, especially indie games, work just fine on Linux.

      • TheRedSpade@lemmy.world
        6·
        8 months ago

        GTA V which doesn’t work at all

        YMMV. Works out of the box on the deck and I don’t remember having any problems with it on arch.

      • anon5621@lemmy.ml
        2·
        8 months ago

        Yesterday played in it.Pirated one version works fine since it’s doesn’t relay on any laucher ;)

      • Moody@lemmy.zip
        1·
        8 months ago

        You can literally just download Windows for free from the Microsoft site.

        • Lumelore (She/her)English
          3·
          8 months ago

          Yeah I know. Still have to pay for license though unless you like having the activate windows watermark in the corner.

      • ColdWater@lemmy.ca
        1·
        8 months ago

        Dualboot could work, I tried it before and didn’t go very well I might give it another chance, by the way does online games with anti cheat that works on Linux under wine will that get me ban?

    • mlg@lemmy.worldEnglish
      7·
      8 months ago

      Trying not to be one of those “but did you try” replies, but personally, I would run Fedora xfce spin to see if anything changes.

      Cutting edge kernel modules + minimal X11 DE will rule out stupidity from Wayland and make it easier to try some different settings.

      AMD is supposed to work out of box, but I’ve heard there are some quirks with certain GPUs in which you may need to set some kernel flags.

      Ex: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/how-to-install-amd-graphics-driver-on-fedora-36/74052/5

  • Enzy@lemm.eeSvenska
    17·
    8 months ago

    The game runs just fine. Vanguard is what is preventing it.

    Either way GNU/Linux wins.

  • Zerush@lemmy.ml
    12·
    8 months ago

    Anyway, almost the only game I play in spare times since years, is The Dark Mod, it’s free and works fine in Linux, Windows and even in Mac (using PlayonMac).

      • Zerush@lemmy.ml
        1·
        8 months ago

        It is, without a doubt one of the best free games you can find, apart with a friendly community for the support and a complete Wiki with step by step tutorials for creating own missions. A game to enjoy for many years. Walkthroughs of all missions in YT in the case if you get stuck in a mission.

  • lemmybereal@lemmy.world
    10·
    8 months ago

    This is exactly the reason I am going to install linux on my main Desktop, crazy coincidence of this meme. The temptation to play that addicting game is sometimes hard to resist. In linux I am more inclined to spend my time on stuff I learn from.

  • Omega_Haxors@lemmy.mlEnglish
    10·
    8 months ago

    I once visited a friend’s house and when I saw their computer’s desktop I dragged LoL to the trash bin and they didn’t even try to stop me.