While same-sex civil unions have been legal in the country since 2016, same-sex couples do not have the right to adopt, thanks in part to opposition from the Catholic Church. Surrogacy remains illegal in Italy and there are restrictions that prevent the adoption of “stepchildren” by one parent. Medically assisted reproduction, like in vitro fertilization (IVF), is only available to heterosexual couples.

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    I kind of assumed, mistakenly, that other countries that aren’t the US were a bit more progressive than the US.

    But it seems like the issues that we’re plagued by exist everywhere?

    Fuck. We gotta fight.

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      The US is actually pretty progressive on the LGBTQ front compared to the rest of the world outside of Northern Europe, I’d even go as far as to say the coastal states are some of the best places for LGBTQ folks in terms of culture in the world.

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            Uruguay 3rd vs. USA 6th

            South America best continent

            “compared to the rest of the world outside of northern europe, USA great”

            Sorry but that looks ridiculous even without mentioning that equaldex is in some places rather flawed. Do they not update the numeric ratings? It’s utterly ridiculous that the country where DESANTIS’S FLORIDA EXISTS among other things has a perfect “100” legal index, while Argentina—where gender identity has been a right for a decade—gets 3 points less for not having all the anti-discrimination statements in federal law.

            Northern Europe is actually only just getting rid of sterilization requirements for legal transition.

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      wut

      the US is very progressive — what sucks is that it’s on a state-by-state basis so it’s at the same time very conservative lol

      but places like the west coast and northeast are very forward. Philadelphia for example has a whole gayborhood filled with gay bars and the most obnoxious LGBT people you’ve ever met

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      It’s best to consider far-right extremism as a global terror campaign, rather than a domestic one wherever you are.

      Some of the details and starting points vary between countries, but the messaging that these various groups use and the end goals they want to achieve are always the same and they look to eachothers successes for inspiration on what to try.

      Conservativism; not even once.

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      Conservatism is dying slowly, and instead of reconsidering their positions, right-wingers are doubling down and turning to fascism to keep their grip on power. We must stay vigilant and counter their bullshit and violence whenever possible. If we want a better world, we have to fight for it.

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    Putting aside the bitter feelings this makes me feel, this is horrible news. From my experience in my own country, voting as a minority & leftist person feels like fighting the waves these last years… I just keep thinking about when things will take a similar turn to Italy’s in other countries too, because it seems like only a matter of time.

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      Did I miss the line in the linked article where it says that one or more of the affected families actually previously supported the extreme-right government, or is your meme simply totally misplaced?

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        You’re right, I’ll be removing the meme. It was in poor taste.

        I chose to post it because of my personal frustration with the turn politics are taking both in my southern European country and in Europe overall.

        I come from Greece and in our last elections we had a historically low voter turnout, with mostly conservative and far-right voters showing up. Which lead to a very fascist parliament. And then everyone was surprised with the results, which made me feel “well what were we all expecting when we didn’t even show up to vote?”.

        But I don’t really know how the elections went in Italy, so my comment was indeed misplaced.

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    I find it weird that being coastal and in the middle of progressive Europe, Italy is still conservative.

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      Southern Europe generally isn’t particularly progressive. A number of southern European countries are quite conservative in the sense of “things are slow to change”.

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    The same people who’ve been complaining for four decades about things like erosion of due process and weak and unpredictable property rights go ahead and change birth certificates retroactively, creating chaos, confusion, and bureaucracy.

    How these lunatics think they’re serving the interests and needs of the kids is beyond me. It’s so mean-spirited and eigenharming.