• Liz
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      102 months ago

      More like lots of having to refute dumb arguments that imply choosing harm reduction is the same thing as endorsing harm.

      • @doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml
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        “harm reduction” in the context of genocide is absolutely wild. It’s a genocide, not a heroin habit

        • Liz
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          32 months ago

          I want no genocide. My choices are: vote for a candidate that would make the genocide worse, while complaining they’re supporting a genocide, or vote for a candidate that would more or less do nothing about it, while complaining they’re ineffectual at stopping the genocide.

          How can you not see one of those two options is better?

          • @doubtingtammy@lemmy.ml
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            72 months ago

            Biden isnt “doing nothing”, he’s actively making it worse. He is directly complicit. How do you not see this?

            • Liz
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              Okay, does that actually change the choice you make? You only have two practical options when it comes to voting. I said do nothing because the government’s policy on Israel effectively hasn’t changed now that they’ve started a genocide (or rather, really ramped up their genocide). In that sense, he’s doing nothing. But again, does that change the choice you make in order to end up with the world closest to what you want?

              • @whoreticulture
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                The third choice is to refuse to vote for genocide supporters and force the obstensibly liberal party to change their actions. Genocide funders don’t get free votes just for having the D next to their name.

                • Liz
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                  12 months ago

                  You seem to think I’m voting for them without making it known their Israel policy is unacceptable. You seem to think that Biden won’t listen to public opinion at all. You seem to think that if I withhold my vote for Biden, there is no potential consequence for doing so, like, I dunno, Trump winning a second term, making the genocide even worse, and attempting to make himself a proper dictator.

                  • @whoreticulture
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                    12 months ago

                    Or the potential consequence of the Democratic party realizing they actually have to make an effort to get votes.

          • @Zeroxxx@lemmy.id
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            12 months ago

            That genocide supporter oughta Genocide Biden and the other do nothing one oughta Peaceful Trump I see.