"As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now," the staffers wrote.

“As the president of the United States, you have power to change the course of history, and the responsibility to save lives right now,” the staffers wrote.

  • @jeffw@lemmy.worldEnglish
    186•8 months ago

    Taking from my comment on the other community where you posted this:

    Biden asked for one and reported Netanyahu said no.

    The headline sounds like he’s just dismissing his staffers

    • GormadtEnglish
      120•8 months ago

      You mean the headline is intentionally misleading to the point of misinforming people?

      It’s straight up journalistic malpractice the way they phrased it

        • Tlaloc_TemporalEnglish
          35•8 months ago

          It doesn’t matter what the intent is here, the headline is misleading, which is poor journalist integrity. Both malice and ignorance can sink a ship.

          • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
            5•8 months ago

            Intent is irrelevant. Biden’s comment and the staffer’s letter correlate (A relationship or connection between two things based on co-occurrence or pattern of change). It is implied (To make evident indirectly) that Biden is disregarding the wishes of the staffers. If you can’t comprehend this, I can’t help you read gooderer.

            • Tlaloc_TemporalEnglish
              19•8 months ago

              It is implied

              Someone did the implying, and that’s bad practice. You are correct that intent is irrelevant, yet you take issue with the headline being accused of intentional misinformation.

              The thing about implications is that they exists regardless of your intent or your audience’s comprehension. It doesn’t matter if the headline is technically correct, if a significant portion of the audience leaves misinformed, that’s poor jounalism. The extent to which this happens here edges into malpractice, either from ignorance or malice.

              Since you take issue with the accusation, you either disagree with the claim of malice or the claim of misinformation; as you reject the former you must disagree that a headline that gives a drastically different interpretation of reality is misinformation. Am I wrong?

              • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                2•8 months ago

                It’s called grammar. I didn’t make the rules.

                As as a conjunction

                The conjunction “as” has several different meanings. We use “as” when one event happens while another is in progress (‘during the time that’). In this case the verb after is often in the continuous form:

                “They arrived as we were leaving. (time conjunction meaning ‘while’ or ‘when’)

                So I don’t see it as malice or misinformation. I had no no trouble with the headline.

                • Tlaloc_TemporalEnglish
                  13•8 months ago

                  An implication doesn’t need to be directly conveyed, especially in a situation so small as a headline. Implication is often used in headlines to convey more information that explicitly stating everything, and especially to save on word count.

                  For example: “TITANIC SINKS, 1500 DIE” Purely by literal meaning: A big boat sank, and somewhere at somepoint, many people died of something. Odd to include that people have died before, that’s just a fact of life, but the Titanic was carrying a lot of people, did they survive? Too bad the headline didn’t say, I guess they don’t know yet.

                  We could look even deeper and conclude that Biden rejected the possibility of a ceasefire specifically because the former staffers demands. I don’t think he’s that spiteful, so it would be an odd interpretation, but it would be fully grammatical correct. Sorry, I didn’t make the rules.

                  As, because and since are conjunctions. As, because and since all introduce subordinate clauses. They connect the result of something with its reason.

                  As you were out, I left a message.

                  She may need some help as she’s new.

                  So I don’t see how a single definition rules out others, as several exist.

                  • @TokenBoomer@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
                    2•8 months ago

                    So, you didn’t like, or understand the headline, and that’s the author’s fault. Fair point. It doesn’t make it grammatically incorrect though. Email the writer and let them know, if it means that much to you.

    • @eestileib@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      39•8 months ago

      “Ok then stop sending bombs and using reaper drones to help them perform mass killings”

      “No can do chief, Bibi told me I need to keep doing all that.”

    • @daftwerder@lemm.eeEnglish
      38•8 months ago

      Considering the power that the US has over Israel, he pretty much is just dismissing his staffers.

    • @Rakonat@lemmy.worldEnglish
      21•8 months ago

      Even if IDF stops shooting, what really makes people believe Hamas will stop? I want an end to the violence as much as anyone else but I really don’t see a cease fire doing anything but giving Hamas time to rearm and plan their next massacre.

      • @SkyeStarfallEnglish
        18•8 months ago

        And if IDF doesn’t stop shooting like they do now, will the continued escalation make less people flock to anti-israel organization like Hamas? Because all I can see happening is that, while Israel may take over some land, they are just strengthening the support of terrorists.

    • rigattiEnglish
      5•8 months ago

      That makes me feel better, but I wish he would put some weight behind it.