As hospitals across Alabama pause IVF treatments, Nikki Haley is suddenly trying to claim she never said what she said.

Former South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley is frantically trying to quell the controversy over comments she made about IVF after an Alabama court’s recent ruling that frozen embryos are children.

“We don’t want fertility treatment to shut down, we don’t want them to stop doing IVF treatment, we don’t want them to stop doing artificial insemination,” Haley said on CNN on Thursday. “But I think this needs to be decided by the people in every state. Don’t take away the rights of these physicians and these parents to have these conversations.”

It was Haley’s second such attempt to explain away her controversial stance on the issue. On Wednesday evening, Haley blurted out a much more gibberish response.

“Well first off all, this is, again, I didn’t say that I agreed with the Alabama ruling. The question that I was asked is ‘do I believe an embryo is a baby?’” Haley said on CNN Wednesday evening. “I do think that if you look in the definition, an embryo is considered an unborn baby. And so yes, I believe, from my stance, that that is.”

But calling an embryo—the stage before the microscopic cellular mass is labeled a fetus—an unborn baby is not exactly correct.

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    This is such an easy layup for any reporter. Haley had her own son via IVF. Part of the IVF process is to reject embryos kill babies and only implant the most viable one(s). Someone should ask her how many of her embryos she rejected babies she killed in order to have her son. Bonus for the follow up question: Why was this baby killing ok for you, but not for others?

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    She can’t even get the definition of embryo right and we should trust her with nukes??

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    In Handmaid’s Tale–esque fashion, Haley has tried to toe the line on the issue of third-party fertility in a futile effort to keep voters from turning away from her floundering campaign, even though she conceived her son via artificial insemination.

    Jesus fucking Christ, these people. For fuck’s sake!

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    Don’t take away the rights of these physicians and these parents to have these conversations.”

    So… she’s pro choice?

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    Maybe she should get clear on the definitions, and make a statement on what she actually believes.
    Because this correction she just made, is based on a very fundamental misunderstanding of what an embryo is.

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        Which is weird since their own book explicitly says life begins at first breath, provides instructions for a cheating detecting potion that’ll induce abortion if the woman cheated, etc

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      Maybe she should get clear on the definitions

      She knows. She’s apparently had IVF herself.

      What a piece of shit, scumbag hypocrite she is.

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      Nah. They are based on a basic misunderstanding of what “the Republican base” actually wants.

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    Oh Christ here we go again with the StAtEs RiGhTs lie…

    It’s one thing if arguments were made in good faith, but these assholes just hide behind the states rights issue until they’re in the position to make it federal…

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      Those same states will stomp all over city government rights when it comes to district maps, voting locations, schools, and local mandates/statutes. DeSantis even has his fist up Disneyland’s ass. America would be a collection of shitholes if not for federal government. Wouldn’t be surprised if we’d still have slavery.

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    Oh no! Businesses are shockingly deciding it’s not worth possible manslaughter charges for possible technical malfunctions. How fucking surprising.

    These fucking idiots never think about how this stuff could affect them until it does. As long as it only hurts the right people, they cheer it on.

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    I posted about this a few days after Roe was overturned. I’m a bit surprised it took this long for IVF to be attacked. Next will be stem cell research, then contraception.

    If you were an adult in the 1980s-90s, you’ll remember this.

    Haley might be young, but she’s an idiot if she didn’t see this coming. It was her own party that made these same moves 40 years ago, and they haven’t been subtle about repeating history.

    I guess all republicans are morons, but come on. This is not a surprise.

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    What I found hilarious (except not) was that she said it should be a conversation between a woman and her doctor, although the embryo is a baby and killing it is murder so… Not much to discuss there is there?

    Discussion is pretty much conspiracy to commit murder under that law, right?

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      Conservatives are losers

      Majority of governorships and plurality of state legislatures. Nevermind all the fucking judge and sheriff seats.

      I would love if liberals could lose like that.

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    So she doesn’t want IVF to stop but does still think embryos are babies. To me this reads like someone who thinks literally all embryos retrieved during the IVF process must be used. For those who aren’t aware, IVF can potentially end up with 8 or so viable embryos.

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    Nikki Haley is a fundamentalist extremist that is advocating for a full ban on abortions after six weeks (which makes abortions essentially entirely illegal). Just because she isn’t Trump doesn’t mean she isn’t fucking crazy.

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    That’s RIGHT! Just like Abortion this should be a “STATES RIGHTS” issue wink wink nudge nudge!

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      “the people in every state should decide” really means “the lunatic governor in every state should decide”.

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        “the people in every state should decide” really means “the lunatic governor Republican (not elected but chosen by the party) governor in every state should decide”.

        Yeah, they are just about done with elections and definitely don’t want Democrat Governors getting to have any say if they can help it. We are getting really close back to ruling by divine right.

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    The comments from The Daily Show on her and her being a so-called “moderate” are even more poignant now.