• MentallyExhausted@reddthat.com
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    10 months ago

    I like that McFarlane just said “fuck that” in The Orville. He kept the gist — leave developing civilizations alone — but doesn’t even consider allowing them to go extinct for stupid reasons.

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      Really early on, too. It was one of the things that made me go “oh wait this isn’t just fart jokes in space”.

      Though to be fair, the reality is that no matter how advanced we get there’s still gonna be fart jokes in space. That scene in the cafeteria where everyone’s getting Bortus to eat random things seems like a far more realistic vision of a space-faring post-scarcity future.

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        The Orville is Star Trek if the federation actually had to recruit real people.

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        Though to be fair, the reality is that no matter how advanced we get there’s still gonna be fart jokes in space. That scene in the cafeteria where everyone’s getting Bortus to eat random things seems like a far more realistic vision of a space-faring post-scarcity future.

        This is exactly why I love lower decks, it’s so much closer to how we would probably act in the 24th century vs the heroized live action stuff lmao

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        Yeah ‘if the stars should appear’ was the point all of us sat up and went “HELLO”

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        In TOS Kirk really leans into not interfering with the “healthy” development of a civilization. If it isn’t healthy in his judgement, he interferes. So, essentially when it comes to Kirk if it offends his sensibilities he assumes free reign change it while paying lip service to the idea of non-intervention.

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          Colonialism at its finest! The Apple is the absolute perfect example. “But Spock, these people don’t even f*ck! We gotta destroy that lizard cave!”

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        Yeah, but in TOS we also see what happens if you forget a book about the chicago mob of the 1920s on a developing planet.

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      And they even had an episode that explained why the Union had a “Prime Directive” and what happened when they tried to introduce new technology to a planet that wasn’t ready for it.

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        Isn’t that also part of the ST lore? Or did I mix up The Orville and Star Trek canon… :/

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      I liked We Are Legion where Bob is like “Fuck this! I’m making sure this species thrives, even if I have to kill half the planet to do it.”. Also regarding genocide, the Bobs were like “file as ‘think about this later’ on our TODO list”.